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Cost to freshen short block....................... #998639 05/23/11 09:14 PM 05/23/11 09:14 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart OP I Live Here
Thumperdart OP I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Since I just went through my heads, I`m thinking about re-honing the block and throwing in new rings, bearings and gaskets on my 400/470 stroker and was wondering what the average cost is since I havn`t worked in a machine shop for a while. Thankxxx............ EDIT; I mean, bearings,rings gaskets etc. plus the hone job and I`ll put it together. Last edited by Thumperdart; 05/23/11 09:20 PM. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Cost to freshen short block....................... [Re: Thumperdart] #998640 05/23/11 09:26 PM 05/23/11 09:26 PM
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Guitar Jones Paddle faster! I hear banjo music! G Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,698 in a cattle trailer down by th...	I just recently had a block done, not a refresh though but taking out what you don't need to buy or have done, like balancing, pistons, block fill and so forth I'd say probably in the neighborhood of $400-$600. "Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind" '92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.

Re: Cost to freshen short block....................... [Re: Thumperdart] #998641 05/23/11 09:31 PM 05/23/11 09:31 PM
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Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	if you are not going to change the rods, a leak down test will tell you if all that is needed. maybe a peak at the bearings.

Re: Cost to freshen short block....................... [Re: Quicktree] #998642 05/23/11 10:21 PM 05/23/11 10:21 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart OP I Live Here
Thumperdart OP I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Quote: if you are not going to change the rods, a leak down test will tell you if all that is needed. maybe a peak at the bearings. I don`t plan on changing anything but the rings,bearings and gaskets although my oil pressure is great. My reason is that for a while I raced w/out an air filter an my cyl. walls had some scratches and w/out a pcv valve, It`s got a bit of blow-by. My cranking comp. #`s were bet 165-170.......... 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Cost to freshen short block....................... [Re: Thumperdart] #998643 05/23/11 10:53 PM 05/23/11 10:53 PM
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Bob_Coomer master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs	Id say $300-$500 Dom... Figure main and rods bearings will cost you $175-$200 alone.. Good set of conventional file fit rings... Another $150 or so. Then you may find that the crank might need to be polished out... Good time to have it magna fluxed and check for hair line cracks... So maybe another $50 there. Then if the timing chain is loose.. another $75. The you need all gaskets.. This can cost as little as $60-$80 or if you run the better head gaskets additional $125-$150.. Oil pump should be checked.... Lifters.. springs.. rocker arms.. Need close inspection... You run a roller so the bronze gear needs looked at... I have freshen'd a few race motors for just the cost of bearings and gaskets if all looks good... Good luck... [color:"red"]65 Hemi Belvedere coming soon [/color] [color:"#00FF00"]557" Indy engine 1.07 60ft 144mph in the 8th 2100 lbs package [/color]

Re: Cost to freshen short block....................... [Re: Bob_Coomer] #998644 05/23/11 10:57 PM 05/23/11 10:57 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart OP I Live Here
Thumperdart OP I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	I know I need head and intake gaskets and a timing chain for sure. I run the blue rubber oil pan gaskets and my only other concern was the 11 year old rod bolts as I`m not sure which ones they are that came w/the Chevy/eagle rods. If I change em I ASSume they`ll have to be honed. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Cost to freshen short block....................... [Re: Thumperdart] #998645 05/23/11 11:12 PM 05/23/11 11:12 PM
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moparmafia mopar M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 568 Ky	i just went to a new machine shop that just opened up a couple months ago for the same thing . i figured since they were new and local id give them a try. they quoted me 1200.00 and i was blown away. i had to ask twice to make sure he knew i was putting it together. it has been a while since i have had anything done so i didnt know if shops are charging that much or ?

Re: Cost to freshen short block....................... [Re: Bob_Coomer] #998646 05/23/11 11:49 PM 05/23/11 11:49 PM
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440Jim I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,934 NC	Quote: Id say $300-$500 Dom... Figure main and rods bearings will cost you $175-$200 alone.. Good set of conventional file fit rings... Another $150 or so. Then you may find that the crank might need to be polished out... Good time to have it magna fluxed and check for hair line cracks... So maybe another $50 there. Then if the timing chain is loose.. another $75. The you need all gaskets.. This can cost as little as $60-$80 or if you run the better head gaskets additional $125-$150.. Oil pump should be checked.... Lifters.. springs.. rocker arms.. Need close inspection... You run a roller so the bronze gear needs looked at... I have freshen'd a few race motors for just the cost of bearings and gaskets if all looks good... Good luck... That is a good shopping list. But I didn't see the cost of a hone with torque plate and that could be $150-$250. The crank magnaflux is worth doing, and you could do the rods too if you have any concerns.

Re: Cost to freshen short block....................... [Re: 440Jim] #998647 05/24/11 12:18 AM 05/24/11 12:18 AM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart OP I Live Here
Thumperdart OP I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Jason Pettis quoted me $200.00 for a hone w/a torque plate plus I`ll need cam bearings installed since I don`t have the tool. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Cost to freshen short block....................... [Re: Thumperdart] #998648 05/24/11 12:27 AM 05/24/11 12:27 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Fitting the cam bearings can be a PITA. Only change them if they show serious signs of wear. If they look decent and the cam feels firm in its jouirnals, dont mess with them.

Re: Cost to freshen short block....................... [Re: Sport440] #998649 05/24/11 01:09 AM 05/24/11 01:09 AM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart OP I Live Here
Thumperdart OP I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	I`ve installed em and I agree, they can be a bear so I`ll check em out. I hope to be doing this soon just have to make sure I can be w/out the dart for a week or so. but then I considered sending my vert to Continental for a peek...........it never ends only the $$$ does. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Cost to freshen short block....................... [Re: Thumperdart] #998650 05/25/11 03:04 AM 05/25/11 03:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,398 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,398 Las Vegas	Well Jason freshened my junk up the end of last year. Cant go wrong with his work for sure. As for cost, well lets just say it was a tad bit more than $400 "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: Cost to freshen short block....................... [Re: Al_Alguire] #998651 05/25/11 03:14 AM 05/25/11 03:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 26,022 United Socialist States of Ame... T tboomer Too Many Posts
tboomer Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 26,022 United Socialist States of Ame...	Al...If your car is junk...I am sending mine to the scrap yard!! Need your rear end checked out? Contact Grizzly!!

Re: Cost to freshen short block....................... [Re: Al_Alguire] #998652 05/25/11 12:29 PM 05/25/11 12:29 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart OP I Live Here
Thumperdart OP I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Quote: Well Jason freshened my junk up the end of last year. Cant go wrong with his work for sure. As for cost, well lets just say it was a tad bit more than $400 I worked w/Jason years ago and he keeps gettin smarter.............I`m figuring around a grand so far NOT including having my vert looked at. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

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