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Re: My 68 Hemi Charger Project -a little different [Re: Keith Black®] #997995
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couple more pics of the entire system installed, less tank:

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Re: My 68 Hemi Charger Project -a little different [Re: Keith Black®] #997996
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another,
+ brake lines, handbrake cable, wiring, fuel lines/components & the rear is close to done:

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Re: My 68 Hemi Charger Project -a little different [Re: Keith Black®] #997997
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Car, at this stage (sans tank): (fuel system next....)

Starting to look mean ... (or at least I think so!!!)


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Re: My 68 Hemi Charger Project -a little different [Re: Keith Black®] #997998
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Also wanted to say great pic's and information, helps me when i get into my project. Really would like to hear it run with your exhaust system, bet it sounds great, And yes it's looking MEAN!!

Re: My 68 Hemi Charger Project -a little different [Re: 70shaker6pk] #997999
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So, i'll get into the next phase (which is still presently in progress), being the fuel system.

Here's the requirements:
1. long range capacity
2. duel fuel (pump gas & E85)
3. deliver across the full range, including 1,500 hp
4. must retain high degree of injector resolution (i.e. tunability) at lower speeds
5. continuous duty low and/or easy maintenance
6. be externally tidy, concealed, appear "lightly" OEM.

Aeromotive helped me with the fuel system design. 16 injectors, 1 x 8 Primaries + 1 x 8 Secondaries.
I am running the Stage V single plane dual quad EFI manifold. We are modifying this for a single plenum and front mount throttle bodies.
We're looking at making dual-progressive intake throttle body assembly as one large TB will likely crack the throttle too far for street use.

I'll start at the tank end. I am using a new tank, modified to have EFI pumps installed. To deliver 1,275 lbs of fuel at full power I need two Aeromotive A1000 pumps. They are internally mounted.

Anyway here's the diagram from Aeromotive, note that it has changed with the use of another set of injectors.

Re: My 68 Hemi Charger Project -a little different [Re: Keith Black®] #998000
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the tank in place before work starts:

6681988-1-FuelTank-1.jpg (77 downloads)
Re: My 68 Hemi Charger Project -a little different [Re: Keith Black®] #998001
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not much space. I will be running 2 external filters outside the tank, up in the space we created in raising the axle hump. Will also be fitting charcoal canister in there (LH Side) for venting tank(s)..

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Re: My 68 Hemi Charger Project -a little different [Re: Keith Black®] #998002
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original filler tube, we are doing away with this.:

6681990-1-FuelTank-3.jpg (68 downloads)
Re: My 68 Hemi Charger Project -a little different [Re: Keith Black®] #998003
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This is the plan for the tank:

1. a sump in the centre of the tank, with one-way-check valves so fuel can only go in, ensuring that the sump is as full as it can be at any time;

2. the pump pickups (2) collect fuel from this sump;

3. there is an inspection plate over the sump (centre of tank), which can be accessed through a access panel made in the trunk floor;

4. there is a pump-mounting-plate, at the front of the tank from which the two pumps will be suspended, but able to be removed, through the same trunk floor access panel for servicing of the pumps or pickup filters (2);

4. Delivery (-10 x 2) and return (-10 x 1) exit through the front of the tank & clear all axle/moving components, incuding adequate distance from exhaust.

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Re: My 68 Hemi Charger Project -a little different [Re: Keith Black®] #998004
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as you may notice we used the structure of the internal sump to brace the tank to some degree. another pic:

6681994-1-FuelTank-6.jpg (81 downloads)
Re: My 68 Hemi Charger Project -a little different [Re: Keith Black®] #998005
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dry solder used to seal the sump and baffles. welding will cause rust.
all internal tank parts being anodized.
...E85...

6681995-1-FuelTank-7.jpg (78 downloads)
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another pic/sump in place :

6681996-1-FuelTank-8.jpg (61 downloads)
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note that the threaded nut plate in the last pic actually goes on the inside of the tank, and sandwiches the tank shell between it (using 2 gaskets) and the billet inspection plate.another pic:

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Re: My 68 Hemi Charger Project -a little different [Re: Keith Black®] #998008
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billet inspection cover/plate, pump mounting plate is the same. will have countersunk allen screws to hold/sandwich gaskets.:

Re: My 68 Hemi Charger Project -a little different [Re: Keith Black®] #998009
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..how we anticipate mounting the pumps:

Re: My 68 Hemi Charger Project -a little different [Re: Keith Black®] #998010
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final filter/pump assembly (ex wiring):

Re: My 68 Hemi Charger Project -a little different [Re: Keith Black®] #998011
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another pic of pump assembly
primary pump is speed controlled, secondary pump will come on stream as referenced by boost & rpm (via ECM):

Re: My 68 Hemi Charger Project -a little different [Re: Keith Black®] #998012
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in-tank pickups (2) & return (1):

6682037-3-InTank-2.jpg (75 downloads)
Re: My 68 Hemi Charger Project -a little different [Re: Keith Black®] #998013
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Darren, That is awesome!!! This post keeps getting better . Keep up the great work!

Re: My 68 Hemi Charger Project -a little different [Re: johnscudashop] #998014
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thanks John, been too busy on other things to post pictures,. here's some more:
pump setup in tank 1:

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