Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes
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01/12/04 08:23 PM
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Steve, sixbbl69
Steve, thanks for your help.
All I'm asking 'original engine' owners to post is:
vin number line sequence number Engine Assembly Date (EAD) - if orginal motor -
or in your case (and dannys) trans date code - if original
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The vin is on your fender tag as is the line sequence.
Vin starts with the first 4 digits on the bottom left line (example: WM23) and ends with the last 8 digits on the top right line (example: 9A290930). Insert the 'M' between the two groups for the full 13 digit vin.
The line sequence is also on the top line of the fender tag. It's the middle 6 digit number (example: 293862) just after the first 5 digits.
The trans date is on a machined pad on the right forward side of the transmission. There are 4 numbers which are part of the 10,000 day calendar (see attached).
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sixbbl69,
Thanks for the input and help....and here I thought you disliked date coding clarification!
No problem! I'm impressed and appreciate your opinion regardless of which side of the fence we find ourselves. Whether we agree or disagree is irrelavent. What's important is that in the process of conversing, we both learn.
Please continue to offer up help and info on date coding. It helps prevent that guy who bought a wrecked- motorless car, a few years, ago-- from turning it into a 40K 'numbers matching' fraud.
Information is valuable. Thanks for your help.
BTW- It sounds like from your posts that you had an A12 car at one time but now no longer have it? Or do you have one now? I can't tell. Sometimes I misread the thoughts and intentions of posters.
Best regards, Coop
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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes
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01/12/04 11:34 PM
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Coop,
What is the P/N sequence on the trans that would include the prod. date? If it is part of the PP8332856 number, then the last 4 digits 2856 would refer to May 23. What would 0453 refer to?
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Frank
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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes
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01/12/04 11:39 PM
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I think the 0453 means the 453rd trans assembled that day
69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry
69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd
69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto
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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes
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01/15/04 11:52 PM
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And a pic of block vin sorry about poor quality, Im not much of a photographer
69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry
69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd
69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto
37 Plymouth PU
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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes
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03/17/04 06:51 PM
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Fender tag info K frame dated 1089 2 (70 style bottom) Carbs outboard 0879 list4394 center 1019 list 4392 outboard 1259 list4393-1
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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes
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03/18/04 03:10 PM
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Broadcast sheet car #174 in the regestry My wiper motor and alt are date code correct now but are not original to this car nor is the trans Radiator dated 0959
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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes
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04/06/04 12:41 AM
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Quick question, and excuse the ignorance. For the A12 Bees and Runners the last 6 are the sequence #'s. Would they ever be the same on any 2 A12 cars? For instance, could a WM21,WM23,RM21,or RM23 have the same last 6 in the VIN? Do the sequence #'s go Bird, Bee, Bird, Bee, or no logical order? If this belongs on a seperate post let me know.
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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes
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04/08/04 01:24 AM
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Quick question, and excuse the ignorance. For the A12 Bees and Runners the last 6 are the sequence #'s. Would they ever be the same on any 2 A12 cars? For instance, could a WM21,WM23,RM21,or RM23 have the same last 6 in the VIN? Do the sequence #'s go Bird, Bee, Bird, Bee, or no logical order? If this belongs on a seperate post let me know.
an rm21 and rm23 coming out of the same plant would not have the same last 6 digits in the same model year , same goes for a wm21 and wm23 .
now how things are run in the same plant vs different makes ??? would a coronet and a satellite actually be built on the same production line ??? if so then rm21/23.wm21/23 would never have the same last 6 , if not built on the same line ??? i'd only be speculating .
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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes
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04/08/04 09:53 PM
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would a coronet and a satellite actually be built on the same production line ??? if so then rm21/23.wm21/23 would never have the same last 6 , if not built on the same line ??? i'd only be speculating .
The answer is yes, it was a "B" body line and a Satellite and Coronet would have been built on the same line.
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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes
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04/09/04 01:33 PM
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would a coronet and a satellite actually be built on the same production line ??? if so then rm21/23.wm21/23 would never have the same last 6 , if not built on the same line ??? i'd only be speculating .
The answer is yes, it was a "B" body line and a Satellite and Coronet would have been built on the same line.
that must have made things slightly confusing .
i wonder if there was a sat or coronet that made it to the end of the line with the wrong inteiror ie: coronet with a satellite seats ..
I don't know about that but I can tell you that in the 70s the Dodge dealership that I worked at received a Dart that had a Dart emblem on one side of the car and a Scamp emblem on the other side. It was at the end of the model year and I would imagine that the Dart emblem bin on one side of the line was empty and they don't stop the line for minor problems like that. They just expect that the dealer will catch it, correct it and warranty claim it as we did. Those kinds of things happened on an occasional basis.
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