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Re: Grudge race advice
[Re: bonefish]
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05/06/11 11:46 AM
05/06/11 11:46 AM
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Marion, South Carolina [><]
an8sec70cuda
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Like said before, get some slicks and practice at the track.
Your car should work better on slicks than radials w/ the manual trans.
I'd have to agree on the top end charge comment. I wouldn't count on the hemi outrunning that cobra w/ a topend charge alone. If you can make the car hook and launch it hard, keep it on an 1/8 mile track and you'll be better off.
A lot will depend on what he has done to the cobra though.
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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
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'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
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'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
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Re: Grudge race advice
[Re: an8sec70cuda]
#986866
05/06/11 01:11 PM
05/06/11 01:11 PM
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Sweet Home Alabama
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I did not know a Holley would not work on your intake   I would think about a intake change as well. I know $$$ is hard to come up with nowdays,but it sounds like you may have to much $$$ in it already to lose HP with a stock intake & carbs. Or maybe some of the NSS guys on here could help you out. I don't know much about Hemi's but I got $$$ that says my Wedge engine will out-run them fords. 
"To Be The Man'You Have Got To Beat The Man"
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Re: Grudge race advice
[Re: MIKES_DUSTER]
#986869
05/06/11 02:38 PM
05/06/11 02:38 PM
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The X with slicks vs the Shelby with slicks.. I have to say the Shelby.. The comment on the guy having to ride home in a mustang is funny.. He will have a cd in, the a/c on and cruise at 70-75 while getting 20mpg..
nothing wrong with that at all...
2011 RAM3500
1967 Fastback Barracuda with some go fast goodies.
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Re: Grudge race advice
[Re: dc426]
#986870
05/06/11 02:51 PM
05/06/11 02:51 PM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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"May upgrade to edelbrock 750s soon"
dude all that cash and you want the cheapest non-performance carb you can buy? get a set of holleys and let him see tail lights. That's a ton of motor. I'd guess tuned and if you can hook it should run mid 10's. I'd be upset with anything less.
I think my heap could keep up w/ a stock 500 in the 1/4 and I have 1/2 what you got.
Hunter, DUDE, please tell us what Holley carbs will fit a stock hemi intake????
"Vanke intake" holleys no work on that??? shame. will the 800 thunders work?
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Re: Grudge race advice
[Re: Roger 68 Charger]
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05/06/11 03:14 PM
05/06/11 03:14 PM
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N.E. Ohio
KillerBee
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You better be ready for a race. You car should have 10 second potential if tuned and driven properly but it doesn't take too much to get the Shelbys to run real quick and still be driven everyday. I tangled with a modified one last summer on the street in my high 11 second 440 Sixpack 4 speed Challenger....he had me by a full car the entire race.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN-7wf0mmsI
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Re: Grudge race advice
[Re: KillerBee]
#986873
05/06/11 09:36 PM
05/06/11 09:36 PM
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North Cackilacky
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You don't want any part of that mustang. Any descent driver would eat you alive. Sorry but that's just how it is.
One day I will have something cool here.
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Re: Grudge race advice
[Re: KillerBee]
#986874
05/06/11 09:54 PM
05/06/11 09:54 PM
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North Carolina, USA
Silverbullet2
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Well opinions vary. I shoulda probably mentioned I work at a ford dealership, and have worked on and driven several GT500s. They are killer... About 100 times better than any mustang from the 60s or 70s any way you look at it. My intent here was to find out how I could get the most out of my car. Trust me, I know the Shelby's will run. I've had the X since 1983, but admittedly I'm a little rusty with the 4 speed. It was a hard car to hook even with the heated up 440. That's the reason I'm asking you guys. I'd like to stack the deck in my favor as much as I can if a race ever happens. Tips on doing a proper burnout, setting the tire pressure, making the chassis work, and transfer weight, are the things I'm asking for your advice on. I imagine Holley carbs do make more power than AFBs but I'm not willing to buy an intake, carbs, and another air cleaner to gain another 35-40 hp. The 750 edelbrocks definitely won't be out of the box. They'll be set up specifically for my motor.
The Shelby owner? He's just the type of guy you'd love to relieve of a couple grand. Pear shaped, backside shaped like a chair bottom, lot more money than sense. When he needs work done on his car he pays somebody at the dealership to do it. He did spend the better part of a day installing a rear seat delete kit in the Shelby, and some tacky window louvers. About as hands on as he gets is to paint the brake calipers red on every vehicle he owns. The kinda guy JC Whitney sends a calender every christmas. That car has never seen a drag strip and I doubt seriously if he has the nards to keep his right foot planted while he goes through the gearbox. Most of the road tests I've read on Shelbys had them running low 13s, and I don't think they had Betty White driving either.
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Re: Grudge race advice
[Re: dustergirl340]
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05/07/11 03:07 AM
05/07/11 03:07 AM
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Saskatchewan, Canada
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You will need a 10X28 or 10.5X28.5 slick with the 4.10 gears... You won't beat him on radials...
Disconnect the front sway bar if you have one, and put some clamps on the first 2 segments of the front of your rear leaf springs.
Air up your front tires to the max (40psi?) and try about 12 psi in the slicks.
Run open headers if you can, and have fun!!!
Cheers,
Arnie
67 Cuda 8.48@ 158.7 mph 1.18 60' 2,600 DA(so far...)
70 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 4-speed. 13.2 @ 104 Stock exhaust/Street tires.
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Re: Grudge race advice
[Re: Silverbullet2]
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05/07/11 12:55 PM
05/07/11 12:55 PM
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Riverside, California
Lil Demon
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Well opinions vary. I shoulda probably mentioned I work at a ford dealership, and have worked on and driven several GT500s. They are killer... About 100 times better than any mustang from the 60s or 70s any way you look at it. My intent here was to find out how I could get the most out of my car. Trust me, I know the Shelby's will run. I've had the X since 1983, but admittedly I'm a little rusty with the 4 speed. It was a hard car to hook even with the heated up 440. That's the reason I'm asking you guys. I'd like to stack the deck in my favor as much as I can if a race ever happens. Tips on doing a proper burnout, setting the tire pressure, making the chassis work, and transfer weight, are the things I'm asking for your advice on. I imagine Holley carbs do make more power than AFBs but I'm not willing to buy an intake, carbs, and another air cleaner to gain another 35-40 hp. The 750 edelbrocks definitely won't be out of the box. They'll be set up specifically for my motor.
The Shelby owner? He's just the type of guy you'd love to relieve of a couple grand. Pear shaped, backside shaped like a chair bottom, lot more money than sense. When he needs work done on his car he pays somebody at the dealership to do it. He did spend the better part of a day installing a rear seat delete kit in the Shelby, and some tacky window louvers. About as hands on as he gets is to paint the brake calipers red on every vehicle he owns. The kinda guy JC Whitney sends a calender every christmas. That car has never seen a drag strip and I doubt seriously if he has the nards to keep his right foot planted while he goes through the gearbox. Most of the road tests I've read on Shelbys had them running low 13s, and I don't think they had Betty White driving either.
I've seen them run as well and every one of them was 13.xx - 15.xx. So I think you're right on that. Unless the guys has spent money to make it run better - and it sounds like you are in a position to know that.
I wouldn't worry about it - I would set your car up for how YOU want it - and if you want to race him - call him out. Set it up and run head's up. Keep your foot in it - if you can beat him by 5 then do it.
Burnout techniques - if you don't havea line-lock - get one. Stab the throttle to get it up on the tire then back it down a bit. Look in the mirror for tire smoke, count to 2, then let off the lock and roll out of it.
The tree - leave on the last yellow. If you see Green - you're late.
Shifting - practice shifting to the point where the 2-3 shift (the most problematic for most folks) is a never miss. Don't let off the throttle when you shift - be able to do it QUICKLY.
Don't worry about playing games. Burnout, stage, launch, run it hard all the way out the back door.
If you get the chance to take your car to the track to practice and see what it really does, get used to some things, set a routine, and tune your car (ET is the best dyno on the planet) - then yu should do that. It will be time and money well spent - not to mention fun.
Now - go spank that Brand X.
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Re: Grudge race advice
[Re: Lil Demon]
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05/07/11 04:59 PM
05/07/11 04:59 PM
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Nanaimo, B.C.
GwaiiEagle
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Don't worry about playing games. Burnout, stage, launch, run it hard all the way out the back door.
And practice makes perfect. Hit the track.
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