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Re: Most powerful available water pump for BigBlock??
[Re: 1964Polara]
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05/02/11 01:33 PM
05/02/11 01:33 PM
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West Coast, USA
jbc426
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Why do you want such a powerful pump? It takes more pwer to spin it, and the stock pumps work just fine if the rest of the cooling system is up to par.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: Most powerful available water pump for BigBlock??
[Re: jbc426]
#984742
05/02/11 02:30 PM
05/02/11 02:30 PM
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Cincinnati, Ohio
Challenger 1
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Why do you want such a powerful pump? It takes more pwer to spin it, and the stock pumps work just fine if the rest of the cooling system is up to par.
Yup, the title of your post tells me something else is wrong with your cooling system, not the pump, unless you have the wrong pulleys on it.
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Re: Most powerful available water pump for BigBlock??
[Re: 6T4 Polara]
#984745
05/02/11 08:06 PM
05/02/11 08:06 PM
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Blair County,PA
62maxwgn
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Went with the one for AC car.Don't know if it is the most powerful,had more vanes.
John
If it is a factory AC pump it actually has less vanes.
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Re: Most powerful available water pump for BigBlock??
[Re: 62maxwgn]
#984746
05/02/11 09:50 PM
05/02/11 09:50 PM
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Houston,Tx.
Lee446
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I have had good luck with the Flow Kooler hi volume pump. On my Hemi with the factory aluminum pump and housing, I noticed that the temps would creep up when sitting in traffic, good 7 blade therm clutch fan on 26" alum radiator with shroud. At home with the cap off, I noticed that I could not really tell when the stat opened at 180, just was not any discernable flow at 800 rpm. I found that if I idled it up to around 1100, you could see good return flow across the top of the tank. This is where a high volume pump can be usefull, and yes, it does have the proper water pump pulley on it.
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Re: Most powerful available water pump for BigBlock??
[Re: NV69B7RR]
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05/03/11 09:23 AM
05/03/11 09:23 AM
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Lincoln Nebraska
RapidRobert
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What Challenger 1 said, post what's going on. Need 3-4 core rad, unobstructed airflow to/thru it, high flow stat, mixture/timing in the ballpark, & 8 vane Eddy (or similar) pump, tight fitting shroud w properly spaced fan. I believe the faster the water speed the better & when 1 block of water in the rad leaves faster and gets cooled less the next block enters faster to b cooled quicker so in a closed system it reaches an equilibrium till it reaches the point of no addt'l gain no matter how fast it is going and cavitation will start b 4 you reach that point. But on the other end if it is too slow it'll easily reach a point where if it is too slow not enough vol of water is going thru the rad being cooled. Want at least 1 to 1 crank to wp ratio. Add the anti cav plate & best is one thick enough to reduce the distance to the recessed area in the housing for a more efficient pump and if apart can drill a 3/8" to 1/2" addt'l cooling hole in the block/head (punch dont drill the gasket as it'll shred it) in between cyls 4-6 and 3-5 just above/next to, the 2 outside bolt holes on the outside edge (make a triangle) as that is the hottest area being between 2 paired ex valves.
live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth
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Re: Most powerful available water pump for BigBlock??
[Re: RapidRobert]
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05/03/11 10:24 AM
05/03/11 10:24 AM
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Blair County,PA
62maxwgn
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What Challenger 1 said, post what's going on. Need 3-4 core rad, unobstructed airflow to/thru it, high flow stat, mixture/timing in the ballpark, & 8 vane Eddy (or similar) pump, tight fitting shroud w properly spaced fan. I believe the faster the water speed the better & when 1 block of water in the rad leaves faster and gets cooled less the next block enters faster to b cooled quicker so in a closed system it reaches an equilibrium till it reaches the point of no addt'l gain no matter how fast it is going and cavitation will start b 4 you reach that point. But on the other end if it is too slow it'll easily reach a point where if it is too slow not enough vol of water is going thru the rad being cooled. Want at least 1 to 1 crank to wp ratio. Add the anti cav plate & best is one thick enough to reduce the distance to the recessed area in the housing for a more efficient pump and if apart can drill a 3/8" to 1/2" addt'l cooling hole in the block/head (punch dont drill the gasket as it'll shred it) in between cyls 4-6 and 3-5 just above/next to, the 2 outside bolt holes on the outside edge (make a triangle) as that is the hottest area being between 2 paired ex valves.
Or you could go with all the original components it rolled of the assembly line with and never look back,everything worked!!  
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Re: Most powerful available water pump for BigBlock??
[Re: 62maxwgn]
#984751
05/03/11 10:42 AM
05/03/11 10:42 AM
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Someplace you aren't
SomeCarGuy
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The Edelbrock pump is a great piece. I have had them on two different cars and they work great.
I want my fair share
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Re: Most powerful available water pump for BigBlock??
[Re: 62maxwgn]
#984754
05/04/11 08:03 AM
05/04/11 08:03 AM
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San Jose, California
DennisH
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What Challenger 1 said, post what's going on. Need 3-4 core rad, unobstructed airflow to/thru it, high flow stat, mixture/timing in the ballpark, & 8 vane Eddy (or similar) pump, tight fitting shroud w properly spaced fan. I believe the faster the water speed the better & when 1 block of water in the rad leaves faster and gets cooled less the next block enters faster to b cooled quicker so in a closed system it reaches an equilibrium till it reaches the point of no addt'l gain no matter how fast it is going and cavitation will start b 4 you reach that point. But on the other end if it is too slow it'll easily reach a point where if it is too slow not enough vol of water is going thru the rad being cooled. Want at least 1 to 1 crank to wp ratio. Add the anti cav plate & best is one thick enough to reduce the distance to the recessed area in the housing for a more efficient pump and if apart can drill a 3/8" to 1/2" addt'l cooling hole in the block/head (punch dont drill the gasket as it'll shred it) in between cyls 4-6 and 3-5 just above/next to, the 2 outside bolt holes on the outside edge (make a triangle) as that is the hottest area being between 2 paired ex valves.
Or you could go with all the original components it rolled of the assembly line with and never look back,everything worked!!
That's right. Ma knew.
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Re: Most powerful available water pump for BigBlock??
[Re: NV69B7RR]
#984757
05/05/11 06:05 AM
05/05/11 06:05 AM
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Pacific NW USA
CompSyn
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DEFINATELY NOT A 440SOURCE pump!! 
Curious? Why is that?
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Re: Most powerful available water pump for BigBlock??
[Re: 1964Polara]
#984758
05/05/11 12:39 PM
05/05/11 12:39 PM
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Irving, TX
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A guy did a multiple pump test on a RB powered motorhome. He tested all kinds of pumps and measured the flow. You would be surprised how little difference there was between pumps. In short, a stock water pump worked better than many aftermarket pumps. ****EDIT**** Found the info on dodgecharger.com. It starts about half way down this page: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=u7bt37m2253qmcubqcm0vmbqa2&topic=60599.175
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind.
- Stu Harmon
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