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Re: Getting Power Out of a Slant Six [Re: HotRodDave] #979270
04/25/11 04:14 PM
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I knew the slant had a long stroke but I did'nt know the particulars.Sounds like it needs a bigger bore......or a different motor.

Re: Getting Power Out of a Slant Six [Re: gch] #979271
04/25/11 07:15 PM
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Doesn't seem to be worth it. Maybe I should just wait it out a couple years, build up my funds, get a job, etc. I will just use this car to learn the basics on (getting the engine started, bleeding the brakes, changing oil, etc.). Maybe later on in life I will try trading for a better project.

Re: Getting Power Out of a Slant Six [Re: MuuMuu101] #979272
04/25/11 07:24 PM
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All slants have the same bore size only the stroke varies.

The 170 has the shortest stroke and if you have to built a high rpm screamer use one of these. The 198 is a stroked 170 (with the block raised to accommodate the stroking). The 225 is a stroked 198.


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Re: Getting Power Out of a Slant Six [Re: Supercuda] #979273
04/25/11 07:36 PM
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I'd just do a junkyard turbo - blowthru setup on it. It'd be pretty cheap, and tons of fun. I talked to a kid at Fling that did it to his '72 Duster. It was budget and hauled a$$.

Re: Getting Power Out of a Slant Six [Re: JonsGottaDusta] #979274
04/25/11 07:41 PM
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Power/Slant/budget. You can get 2 of the 3, but never all 3 together.


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Re: Getting Power Out of a Slant Six [Re: slantzilla] #979275
04/25/11 08:20 PM
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Power/Slant/budget. You can get 2 of the 3, but never all 3 together.




Loophole: So can I get power on a budget?

Re: Getting Power Out of a Slant Six [Re: MuuMuu101] #979276
04/25/11 08:34 PM
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Quote:

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Power/Slant/budget. You can get 2 of the 3, but never all 3 together.




Loophole: So can I get power on a budget?




Ya you can. Drive downhill!

Re: Getting Power Out of a Slant Six [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #979277
04/25/11 08:36 PM
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Quote:

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Power/Slant/budget. You can get 2 of the 3, but never all 3 together.




Loophole: So can I get power on a budget?




Ya you can. Drive downhill!




Geeze! That's almost free!

Re: Getting Power Out of a Slant Six [Re: MuuMuu101] #979278
04/25/11 09:57 PM
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Power/Slant/budget. You can get 2 of the 3, but never all 3 together.




Loophole: So can I get power on a budget?




Not out of a Slant.


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Re: Getting Power Out of a Slant Six [Re: slantzilla] #979279
04/25/11 10:11 PM
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Quote:

Power/Slant/budget. You can get 2 of the 3, but never all 3 together.





Re: Getting Power Out of a Slant Six [Re: dustergirl340] #979280
04/26/11 08:44 AM
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I'd say it depends on what your primary motivation is. If it is to go reasonably fast for cheap, then personally I would leave the slant right there and move on. A used SB would IMHO be a quicker-to-implement, easier, cheaper, and faster-when-finished undertaking.

If you want to travel a different route from the crowd (well you are already doing that in a Mopar, but let's say a different route from the Mopar crowd ), then knock yourself out. A good turbo slant would be fun to see and I'm sure very rewarding to do.

But it sounds like to former to me?

Re: Getting Power Out of a Slant Six [Re: MuuMuu101] #979281
04/26/11 11:56 AM
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Quote:

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Power/Slant/budget. You can get 2 of the 3, but never all 3 together.




Loophole: So can I get power on a budget?




yes. find a good running 318 or 360 magnum. ~$300-500 get a 4bbl intake for it (used magnum M1, or PP crosswind or eddie magnum air gap). pull the cam, have it reground by bullet cams using their HR259/316 lobe ($150). get hughes #1110 valve springs ($100) and their cam snout extender ($20?), and either their retainers ($60) or junkyard retainers off of a couple 2.2L/2.5L chrysler 4 cylinders.

if you pull the heads, get a good 5 angle valve job, opening the seats up to 1.9/1.605", do a little bowl blending/valve guide profiling, and open up the pushrod pinch some.

run summit brand small block headers and a 600-650 cfm carb.

should be an honest 300-340 HP, 330-380 TQ for under a grand.


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Re: Getting Power Out of a Slant Six [Re: patrick] #979282
04/26/11 04:01 PM
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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Power/Slant/budget. You can get 2 of the 3, but never all 3 together.




Loophole: So can I get power on a budget?




yes. find a good running 318 or 360 magnum. ~$300-500 get a 4bbl intake for it (used magnum M1, or PP crosswind or eddie magnum air gap). pull the cam, have it reground by bullet cams using their HR259/316 lobe ($150). get hughes #1110 valve springs ($100) and their cam snout extender ($20?), and either their retainers ($60) or junkyard retainers off of a couple 2.2L/2.5L chrysler 4 cylinders.

if you pull the heads, get a good 5 angle valve job, opening the seats up to 1.9/1.605", do a little bowl blending/valve guide profiling, and open up the pushrod pinch some.

run summit brand small block headers and a 600-650 cfm carb.

should be an honest 300-340 HP, 330-380 TQ for under a grand.




I do have a non-running 318. However, if I were to get it built up and swap it with the slant wouldn't I need to change the K-frame and the transmission? It is a stock 318 out of a 70 or 71 Cuda (not sure which one) with a Holley 2-bbl and exhaust manifolds.

But then again, it is just a little 318, nothing too special.

Re: Getting Power Out of a Slant Six [Re: MuuMuu101] #979283
04/26/11 04:20 PM
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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Power/Slant/budget. You can get 2 of the 3, but never all 3 together.




Loophole: So can I get power on a budget?




yes. find a good running 318 or 360 magnum. ~$300-500 get a 4bbl intake for it (used magnum M1, or PP crosswind or eddie magnum air gap). pull the cam, have it reground by bullet cams using their HR259/316 lobe ($150). get hughes #1110 valve springs ($100) and their cam snout extender ($20?), and either their retainers ($60) or junkyard retainers off of a couple 2.2L/2.5L chrysler 4 cylinders.

if you pull the heads, get a good 5 angle valve job, opening the seats up to 1.9/1.605", do a little bowl blending/valve guide profiling, and open up the pushrod pinch some.

run summit brand small block headers and a 600-650 cfm carb.

should be an honest 300-340 HP, 330-380 TQ for under a grand.




I do have a non-running 318. However, if I were to get it built up and swap it with the slant wouldn't I need to change the K-frame and the transmission? It is a stock 318 out of a 70 or 71 Cuda (not sure which one) with a Holley 2-bbl and exhaust manifolds.

But then again, it is just a little 318, nothing too special.




No need to change k frames. Check this out...
http://www.engine-swaps.com/


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Re: Getting Power Out of a Slant Six [Re: bigsbigelow] #979284
04/26/11 05:59 PM
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I agree with some of the others; use a small block, ESPECIALLY if you're on a budget.

Steve Dulcich did a 400hp 318 article a while back....

ahhh, found it: http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/ccrp_0401_mopar_318_engine/index.html

using a 360 or 318 is by far the cheapest and easiest way for you do get some power.

Dave


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