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How do I block the exhaust cross-over? #978478
04/23/11 12:52 AM
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If my valley pan has the full opening for the heat cross-over can I block it somehow (without buying a new valley pan)?

Re: How do I block the exhaust cross-over? [Re: VITC_GTX] #978479
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SOME have suggested that you melt some old pistons and fill the crossover in the intake with the molten aluminum.

NEVER done that me-self ...I am a fan of a crossover at least a LITTLE open.

Re: How do I block the exhaust cross-over? [Re: dOc !] #978480
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Yeah I hear ya but I have a very old Torker 383 intake that has a crossover (didn't think they had them...) that I want to close up.

This intake has a hole in the bottom of the plenum that goes into the heat cross over and there is, what appears to be, a provision for a choke or something directly behind the carb. I wanted to close it up.

Re: How do I block the exhaust cross-over? [Re: VITC_GTX] #978481
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Just find some thin sheet metal and cut out a couple rectangles bigger than the crossover opening in the head. I get a lttle more extragevent and have a tiny tab on the end of the plate i bend to 90 degrees so it holds in place better while putting the intake gaskets on. Just use a little silicon to hold them onto the head, and put your intake gaskets over that. Done. I do this to any engine I do that wont see any cold weather use. If you email me, I can send you a pic when I cut a set for a 383 and 440 I am getting ready to button up here.

If your after just filling the hole in the bottom of the intake, A little JB weld will hold just fine there if the surface is clean--i would get some aluminum cleaner---BUT, you still need to block it off at the heads as it will blow the JB weld back out eventually.


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Re: How do I block the exhaust cross-over? [Re: 85_Ram_4speed] #978482
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Cut a couple of pieces from a old valley pan and make some block offs and secure them with ultra copper rtv.

Re: How do I block the exhaust cross-over? [Re: Y3 70 BEE] #978483
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It has GOT TO BE some real thin sheet metal. If not .. it can screw-up the seal of the intake to head. I have heard of some people having good-luck with some hi-quality stainless steel.

Re: How do I block the exhaust cross-over? [Re: VITC_GTX] #978484
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I did have some of FelPro block offs laying aroud here.Dont know if I can find them but if I do Ill send them to you.I always just buy the pan with the blocks.Rocky


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Re: How do I block the exhaust cross-over? [Re: therocks] #978485
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I use roof flashing, very thin and seems to hold up.

Re: How do I block the exhaust cross-over? [Re: Mopar_Country] #978486
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i cut out some sheet aluminum and welded it into openings in the aluminum manifold.

then milled the welds down flush


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Re: How do I block the exhaust cross-over? [Re: aarcuda] #978487
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a roll of aluminum foil. tear of sheets of it and pack it in..keep going until your satisfied with it.

it works btw and is a older way of doing it....



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Re: How do I block the exhaust cross-over? [Re: gremlinsteve] #978488
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At one time I used stainless shim stock. Don't remember the thickness, but months later it was same as when it when in. I don't know how to tune an engine very good and I couldn't make my engine run right with it blocked (I'm sure because the temps and mixture didn't get along) so I unblocked it.

Re: How do I block the exhaust cross-over? [Re: VITC_GTX] #978489
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Thanks to all for the good tips.

Rocky- Thanks for the offer to send the block offs!

I think I'll just cut some thin stock and lay them in there. Or maybe's Steve's idea of tin foil

Re: How do I block the exhaust cross-over? [Re: VITC_GTX] #978490
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Quote:

Thanks to all for the good tips.

Rocky- Thanks for the offer to send the block offs!

I think I'll just cut some thin stock and lay them in there. Or maybe's Steve's idea of tin foil






Why not just buy the $20.00 block off vally pan.

To do any other block off option , you will have to remove the intake anyways and want a new pan gasket.


The Tin foil plug is a old school idea. I did that back in 1976 It didnt last though

Maybe I didnt cram the tin foil balls in there hard enough. After a year, when I took the intake off, all of the tin foil was gone

The forces of exhuast pressures and heat were enough to remove the tin foil restriction over time.

Re: How do I block the exhaust cross-over? [Re: Sport440] #978491
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ya gotta use alot of it i know. its gonna take up alot of that roll.

just a suggestion


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Re: How do I block the exhaust cross-over? [Re: gremlinsteve] #978492
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I also unblocked mine on the GTX to get the stock AVS carburator choke to open correctly. It gets a little hotter but working OK.







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