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Re: Big Block or Gen III Hemi?
[Re: cagebob1]
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03/22/11 11:31 AM
03/22/11 11:31 AM
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Mr.Yuck
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Not enough dumb comments...yet
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That's the type of feedback I was looking for. I've always been a N/A big block guy, but I think it's time to embrace the new technology
I boosted a very mild 440 w/ an old SN-2000 Paxton and dropped my et by a full second and picked up 10mph on only 6psi of boost. It had zero effects on drivabilty (is that a word) and probably would have done better w/ less gear (3.73 vs. the 3.91's) If the motor in this goes south it will get 8.8:1 pistons and 8-10lbs of boost. It was like having a 100-150 shoot ALL the time.
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Re: Big Block or Gen III Hemi?
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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03/22/11 06:21 PM
03/22/11 06:21 PM
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haddixj
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if your doing a Rx7 why not put an LS based motor in it? its been done and a proven combo. Not to say the gen III isnt good but if your starting from square 1 go with the LS, people making that HP easy on stock blocks and some cranks. FWIW I have a 70 duster tube chassis car and my new motor is a 582 BBC dart block BMF heads I am at 10K OTD dynoed. I priced out the mopar stuff B1 heads are like 7k a short block is 7k just adds up and wont be as much HP for the dollar. All that said a gen II hemi would be the most eye catching. ohh and what year is the RX7? If its 93+ check out hinson cars they make all the stuff to put the LS in without tube chassis
70 duster 25.1E,73 barracuda, 70 gran coupe, 71 cuda
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Re: Big Block or Gen III Hemi?
[Re: haddixj]
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03/22/11 09:16 PM
03/22/11 09:16 PM
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Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
Not enough dumb comments...yet
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Not enough dumb comments...yet
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if your doing a Rx7 why not put an LS based motor in it? its been done and a proven combo. Not to say the gen III isnt good but if your starting from square 1 go with the LS, people making that HP easy on stock blocks and some cranks. FWIW I have a 70 duster tube chassis car and my new motor is a 582 BBC dart block BMF heads I am at 10K OTD dynoed. I priced out the mopar stuff B1 heads are like 7k a short block is 7k just adds up and wont be as much HP for the dollar. All that said a gen II hemi would be the most eye catching. ohh and what year is the RX7? If its 93+ check out hinson cars they make all the stuff to put the LS in without tube chassis
might as well hang a chevy II shell on it and call it a day.
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Re: Big Block or Gen III Hemi?
[Re: cagebob1]
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03/23/11 07:44 AM
03/23/11 07:44 AM
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Posts: 16,123 Grand Haven, MI
patrick
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Chryco - Isn't a Gen II Hemi really expensive?
not really any more expensive than a wedge once you start talking aftermarket blocks/cranks/heads...rocker gear is about the only thing more expensive at that point because you're buying 2x the components
for a light small car like the RX7, I think I'd be inclined to a genIII hemi...
Last edited by patrick; 03/23/11 07:47 AM.
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Re: Big Block or Gen III Hemi?
[Re: haddixj]
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03/23/11 09:06 AM
03/23/11 09:06 AM
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Posts: 2,826 NY usa
540challenger
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if your doing a Rx7 why not put an LS based motor in it? its been done and a proven combo. Not to say the gen III isnt good but if your starting from square 1 go with the LS, people making that HP easy on stock blocks and some cranks. FWIW I have a 70 duster tube chassis car and my new motor is a 582 BBC dart block BMF heads I am at 10K OTD dynoed. I priced out the mopar stuff B1 heads are like 7k a short block is 7k just adds up and wont be as much HP for the dollar. All that said a gen II hemi would be the most eye catching. ohh and what year is the RX7? If its 93+ check out hinson cars they make all the stuff to put the LS in without tube chassis
THe power he is looking to make even the Ls guys don't run that much power through a stock block. Must from what i seen you the LQ truck block "cast iron" but then upgrade"the smart ones" to the LSX Block around the 600HP mark. I know the stock "ported" G3 Hemi heads were able to make 700HP from N/A and the new 6.4L heads are even better still however the block is another question as i am not sure how much they can handle but Mopar does have a ALum race block for the 3rd G hemi
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Re: Big Block or Gen III Hemi?
[Re: Racer426]
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04/04/11 12:01 AM
04/04/11 12:01 AM
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hemidup
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I vote for the Gen III Hemi. While freshening up our Gen II Hemi in the 64 Lightweight we decided to weigh it. The old iron headed girl weighed in at 720 lbs. When we pulled the Gen III Hemi out of our 09 Challenger Drag Pak and weighed it. She came in at a whooping 460 lbs! And the all aluminum Gen III Hemi race blocks are reported to weigh 90 lbs lighter. 370 lbs for an engine that we can make almost as much or more hp/tq as the Gen II Hemi fat girl. If the old race Hemi ever decides to give up the ghost, a Gen III Hemi will take its place.
Last edited by hemidup; 04/04/11 12:02 AM.
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