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Zoom vs Centerforce #943798
03/06/11 12:08 AM
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What does everyone think? Which is better Centerforce or Zoom? Are both made in the USA? Give me your or share with me a better product..

Thanks Dennis


1966 Charger 383 4 speed (Black with Red interior)
1973 Cuda 340 4 speed (Lemontwist)
1972 Corvette
Re: Zoom vs Centerforce [Re: 19cuda73] #943799
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No personal experience with Centerforce. I had a Zoom once a very long time ago in a '66 Belvidere II 426 Hemi. I wasn't impressed. My last two clutches have been McLeod & Sachs. Both hold well, but I managed to break a spring in the McLeod disc. The Sachs has a lighter pedal.

Re: Zoom vs Centerforce [Re: 5spdcuda] #943800
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Zoom out / Centerforce in. No comparison.


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Re: Zoom vs Centerforce [Re: 19cuda73] #943801
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I have 2 cars with the centerforce dual friction in them. A 71 440 +6 Cuda and a 528 CI Hemi in a 69 Super Bee. They have been in the cars for several years and have always gripped tight with no chattering. The overcenter spring will need to be removed and the pedal is lighter than the long style clutches. I am very happy and I do beat on the cars often, Have not had any experience with the zoom clutches in the last 30 years.


1969 Orig Hemi Super Bee Post 4 spd Red on Red (Sold sadly)
1970 Cuda Drag car 500" B1/BS 8.63 @ 155 mph
1970 Challenger SE 383 4 bbl A/C PB PS Leather
1971 Orig 440+6 Cuda 4 spd Shaker In-Violet
Re: Zoom vs Centerforce [Re: hemibee69] #943802
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Have a Centerforce in my Maxie clone; nice clutch on the street, haven't raced the car, though.

Re: Zoom vs Centerforce [Re: topside] #943803
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CF here also.Great clutch.Last Zoom I had fell out in pieces.Rocky


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Re: Zoom vs Centerforce [Re: therocks] #943804
03/07/11 01:00 AM
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Centerforce gets my vote, I ran there street clutch in my 97 Z28 & really liked it, even on the bottle & 5500 clutch dumps (not at the same time of coarse), 2500 on the bottle.


75 Duster, 451 10.87 @ 123.58 NA 97 Z28 6sp., 12.01 @ 115 on a 100 shot 71 Swinger. 360 magnum. 12.58 @ 105 78 cutlass, 469 BBC. 12.70 @ 108 on street tires. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2kqNmMfheU
Re: Zoom vs Centerforce [Re: 19cuda73] #943805
03/07/11 02:31 AM
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I had a Zoom many years ago in my Cuda. It lasted about 6000 miles, seemed to work well, but then one of the levers broke. I replaced it with a Centerforce Dual Friction, and that's the best clutch I've ever had.


1974 'Cuda 360/TKO 1990 Ram Van 1998 Neon
Re: Zoom vs Centerforce [Re: 19cuda73] #943806
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Re: Zoom vs Centerforce [Re: moparmarks] #943807
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I had a couple of Zooms fall apart in pretty short order, probably less than a a couple of thousand miles of hard street use. When all the lining falls off the disc, you can clearly see the "Made in Thailand" stamp underneath. Replaced the Zooms with Centerforce and could not be happier. Light pedal, bites hard, still all together.

Re: Zoom vs Centerforce [Re: Evil Monkey] #943808
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Are the Dual Friction preferred over the StageII's.


1966 Charger 383 4 speed (Black with Red interior)
1973 Cuda 340 4 speed (Lemontwist)
1972 Corvette
Re: Zoom vs Centerforce [Re: 19cuda73] #943809
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I've had several Centerforce Dual Frictions in different vehicles and never had any problems. Have one in my Challenger right now!

Re: Zoom vs Centerforce [Re: 19cuda73] #943810
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Had a Centerforce dual friction in my hemi challenger & loved it. Never a problem.

Re: Zoom vs Centerforce [Re: 19cuda73] #943811
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Always have used a Borg and Beck style instead of a Chevy diaphram style...


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Re: Zoom vs Centerforce [Re: Rhinodart] #943812
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Quote:

Always have used a Borg and Beck style instead of a Chevy diaphram style...





I have to Rhino.. always Borg & Beck style Ram,Zoom,Hayes ect on all my Mopars for 30yrs, Last year, against my Old skool thoughts, I went with a Centerforce Dual friction, Took the spring out from under the dash (almost got killed)Street and track all summer 3,000 to 4,000 RPM launches and no problems and being a bit older its nice my leg still feels fine after a day in the staging lanes

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Re: Zoom vs Centerforce [Re: hemi4speed] #943813
03/09/11 07:38 AM
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Hay's race disc with a stock Borg n Beck

Re: Zoom vs Centerforce [Re: MrFoFody] #943814
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I've not used a zoom, but they appear to be a cheap stock replacement. the CF DF is a nice performance clutch that I am using right now, and I like it.


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