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Nice weight savings! #941216
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Well, after adding the additional tubing for the 25.5 cert and fire bottle we were able to still see a 125+ lb weight savings from the car over the off season. This is without really changing the outward appearance any....which looks heavier than it really is.

Most of the savings is going from 2 red top Optima batteries (96 lbs) to a single 16V XS lightweight battery (32 lbs). The rest came from alot of various places. Still working on about 35 more lbs to shed. Now if I could just build that new big inch aluminum gen III hemi I could get the car down to almost 2550.

Re: Nice weight savings! [Re: 408strokerdart] #941217
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2 red top Optima batteries (96 lbs)




Wow.. I didnt know it was that much.. Thanks for sharing the info..

Re: Nice weight savings! [Re: Jeepmon] #941218
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how heavy were you last season?

thats still amazing you lost that much with all the bars you added


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2 red top Optima batteries (96 lbs)




Wow.. I didnt know it was that much.. Thanks for sharing the info..



Really, it does not feel that heavy
Perhaps I don't know my own strength


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Re: Nice weight savings! [Re: 408strokerdart] #941220
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could you share some of the other various places you shed the weight if you dont mind?

Re: Nice weight savings! [Re: mshred] #941221
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I was 2840 last year. Other weight savings is coming from:

More efficient wiring
light weight headlights
removal of the original trans crossmember
removal of all of the structure under the dash that used to mount the brake pedal/master cyl
lightened the dash
add racepak and loose all of the gauges/shift light/fuel isolator
lexan windshield/side windows/remove regulators
removed every unnecessary tab/bracket/piece of metal (4 lbs in a bucket)

I am sure there are other places I lost weight. Not everything I mentioned has been done yet either. I started out the winter with a goal of making the car cert 25.5 and to reduce the weight to 2700 lbs without jacking up the overall look of my car. BTW, it still has the factory interior door panels, headliner and will be carpeted.

Re: Nice weight savings! [Re: 408strokerdart] #941222
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Very intresting post,thanks. Are you trying to run the 5.80 class at Crandall?

Re: Nice weight savings! [Re: DavidDean] #941223
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96 lbs to 32 lbs, WOW!

Re: Nice weight savings! [Re: John Burdine] #941224
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should i assume that weight is with you in the car?

that is impressive


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Re: Nice weight savings! [Re: DavidDean] #941225
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Very intresting post,thanks. Are you trying to run the 5.80 class at Crandall?




Yes, that is exactly what I'm trying to do.

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You could also back away from the table a little earlier and get part of that 35# loss you are looking for! just an idea son!

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Re: Nice weight savings! [Re: John Burdine] #941227
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96 lbs to 32 lbs, WOW!




Lots of weight in those batteries.

Re: Nice weight savings! [Re: 408strokerdart] #941228
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I didn't realize your car was that light to begin with. you are right it looks a lot heavier than it is. I've been trying all winter to get my small block car down to 2800lbs with driver, but I don't know if I've done it or not.


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Re: Nice weight savings! [Re: Jacob Pitt] #941229
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I didn't realize your car was that light to begin with. you are right it looks a lot heavier than it is. I've been trying all winter to get my small block car down to 2800lbs with driver, but I don't know if I've done it or not.




I really didn't realize all of the different places that I could remove weight. Just have to justify the cost to reduce the weight vs. simply upping the HP. I decided to just lighten the car since that will pay future dividends with less parts breakage. I refuse to sacrifice the original outward appearance of the car though.

Re: Nice weight savings! [Re: 408strokerdart] #941230
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Your doing good.My car has a alum motor in it and is still 3,120.But I can't give up the stock interior or the stock gauges.And I can't afford a chromoly cage so I guess I'll have to deal with it.


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brian thats awesome,im not sure what kind of front end u have,but i lost well over 100lbs in my cuda by using rms alterkation,plus added tons of adjustability

Re: Nice weight savings! [Re: fishy340] #941232
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brian thats awesome,im not sure what kind of front end u have,but i lost well over 100lbs in my cuda by using rms alterkation,plus added tons of adjustability




Fabbed moly k-frame, fabbed front struts, R&P steering. Can't get much lighter there.

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I was 2840 last year. Other weight savings is coming from:

More efficient wiring
light weight headlights
removal of the original trans crossmember
removal of all of the structure under the dash that used to mount the brake pedal/master cyl
lightened the dash
add racepak and loose all of the gauges/shift light/fuel isolator
lexan windshield/side windows/remove regulators
removed every unnecessary tab/bracket/piece of metal (4 lbs in a bucket)

I am sure there are other places I lost weight. Not everything I mentioned has been done yet either. I started out the winter with a goal of making the car cert 25.5 and to reduce the weight to 2700 lbs without jacking up the overall look of my car. BTW, it still has the factory interior door panels, headliner and will be carpeted.


did you weigh your regulators, specificaly the rear?


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Re: Nice weight savings! [Re: Stroker Scamp] #941234
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I was 2840 last year. Other weight savings is coming from:

More efficient wiring
light weight headlights
removal of the original trans crossmember
removal of all of the structure under the dash that used to mount the brake pedal/master cyl
lightened the dash
add racepak and loose all of the gauges/shift light/fuel isolator
lexan windshield/side windows/remove regulators
removed every unnecessary tab/bracket/piece of metal (4 lbs in a bucket)

I am sure there are other places I lost weight. Not everything I mentioned has been done yet either. I started out the winter with a goal of making the car cert 25.5 and to reduce the weight to 2700 lbs without jacking up the overall look of my car. BTW, it still has the factory interior door panels, headliner and will be carpeted.


did you weigh your regulators, specificaly the rear?




I didn't weight the rear regulators. The last year car weight was without those since I removed those early last year. I am going to do the pass side window fixed in place without any track and I am going to do the driver side window so it rolls up and down (fasten with seat belt like old super stock) since I can't even think how big of a PITA it would be to load and unload the car without being able to steer it.

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Brian the best way to get 100 lbs off your car is to find 1600 places to take off an ounce

I got a pair of those headlights...I love them

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Brian the best way to get 100 lbs off your car is to find 1600 places to take off an ounce

I got a pair of those headlights...I love them



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I haven't turned anything into swiss cheese yet either. I know that I have only touched the surface of places for weight reduction.

Re: Nice weight savings! [Re: DavidDean] #941238
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Very intresting post,thanks. Are you trying to run the 5.80 class at Crandall?




Were you at Crandall for the $3K bracket race just recently?

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lightweight headlights ?
are they functional ?
Where do you get them ?

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Yes, they are functional. Do a search as they were discussed in depth less than a month ago. There are several options that were mentioned.

Re: Nice weight savings! [Re: Jeepmon] #941241
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2 red top Optima batteries (96 lbs)




Wow.. I didnt know it was that much.. Thanks for sharing the info..




Guess I should get the scale out before I go spewing out numbers. I scaled the old batteries yesterday so I could take inventory and they were 39 lbs for one and 40 lbs for the other. So they are 79 lbs and not the 96 lbs I previously stated.

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Ok, got some work done this weekend. Dash as removed from car with gauge cluster & (3) 2 1/16 Autometer ultra lite gauges = 31 lbs, Dash after removal of all of the unnecessary items (I haven't cut away any of it yet either) = 13.2 lbs. I am sure that after cutting and making it removable that it will be just a little over 10 lbs with the dash pad. No fiberglass dash required here.

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That's right man, keep it all full-metal-jacket.
No plastics needed like plastic credit cards.
All metals like Titanium, inconel, stainless, aluminum, magnesium, and Gold. LOL.
All serious, I like your approach to the grass roots of hot rodding. Working with what metals you have and don't need on board.

Re: Nice weight savings! [Re: 408strokerdart] #941244
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A friend went that extra step with weight savings and dropped around 30 lbs himself!

I have a 68 Valiant where the original builder swiss cheesed most of the panels. The hood was quite light, on par with some of the fibre glass stuff I have seen.


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I can afford the chrome molly cage but not the aluminum motor

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I can afford the chrome molly cage but not the aluminum motor


I probably have less in my alum motor because my dad and I can do it ourselves and not pay a shop to do it all.


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I hear you there I was just thinking my molly cage was good value for about $300.00 more. dont quote me on that difference though its been a while

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I hear you there I was just thinking my molly cage was good value for about $300.00 more. dont quote me on that difference though its been a while


There is a block just like mine on ebay for $800.You aren't going to come close to putting a chromoly cage in a car for that.If you could I would have done it a long time ago.They want $3,500 and up in my area to do a car like mine.Besides My dad and I did my whole motor and it still took me 4 years to get all the money to build it.


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my chromoly 8point kit was $530.00 a friend and I installed it in a weekend I am sure it is not as complicated as yours we are not going near as fast originally we only planned on running in the 10s

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A friend went that extra step with weight savings and dropped around 30 lbs himself!





Ugh... dont remind me... Since the last time i drove my car i've gained 50lbs... And i'm obsessed with weight-reduction. 50lbs is gonna hurt.

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