I got to agree with Coop on this one, its an A12 REUNION

I have to agree with Coop too, if we don’t at least keep them separate then it only adds to the confusion of what is correct, what is correct and unique and what never happened because it’s a clone.

How will we keep them separated and draw the line (pun intended) so that the less knowledgeable don’t go away from the event thinking a ’68 B-body with everything A12 is correct? Sorry but if this was a dog show we wouldn’t want (or have) a “Boxer mix” class. This is an “International” show and event at Carlisle and no place to have the slightest misleading or incorrect examples to further confuse the breed.

If the AAR/T/A group allows clones then that’s really going to screw me up because I don’t even know the correct V.I.N. of one of those cars and just wait until I get into an argument with someone because I think they made them in ’73 too because I saw one at Carlisle? Now where is that ’70 Daytona parked? Aaaaahhhhhhhh, I didn’t just say that sorry

I don't hang here (A12 fourm) too often so my opinion doesn't really count, but if it's going to be an A12 reunion then that's what it should be. There are plenty of other places for the clone cars ( b body modified) and I think they should be seperate.
Just think if they had a 1971 Cuda convertible reunion and 35 cars showed up

I can't wait to see all these cars parked together, what a sight

Frank, Gary...

You guys are doing a fantastic job. My thanks go out to you and all the excellent work you've taken on. I've been holding back on posting about this to see who else might step forward. At this point I guess it's time to just move on. I'm sure more guys will join in as the time approaches.

Frank, anything new on 'Project Six Pack' (P6P)? Is there any info yet on whether or not Mr. Struse plans on attending? If he's interested we as a group need to start crunching cost numbers on the trailering of his car. If he's not coming then lets know that too.



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As Gary stated it's time to get momentum working in our favor. If we can lock up the attractions like Hoover, Sox 'P6P' and perhaps a few others we can garner interest in the mopar community. From there it'll be easier to entice A12 owners who are fence sitting on trailering.

Specifics on the attractions?...

Mr. Sox and Mr. Hoover could:
sign cars
sign pictures
pose for pictures
be interviewed on the video.
the Sox interview might be about the Cecil County run and their 6 pack clinic car
the Hoover interview might be about the 6 pack conception and the hood design.

I was also wondering if we could extend a special invitation to John Grinwald and Rich Berlisk...after all these guys should be considered pioneers in the field of A12 restoration. Along those lines Roger Gibson and Frank Badalson could also be asked to attend. I wouldn't mind having all that knowledge and insight on tap to check out our cars and answer restoration questions.

I have been in contact with Hemmings and others on ad rates, but it'd be foolish to place ads before knowing exactly who/what the attractions actually are. If we can get all of the above we'd really have a venue to promote and entice those previously mentioned fence sitters.

I'll contact Berlisk and Grinwald. I'm pretty sure I can reach them through Randy. I'm almost sure Gibson and Badalson will be attending Carlisle so we'd just have to extend a special invitation to them to spend a specific time with us. Anyone want to give them a call?

Let's try to get the headliners and attractions locked up ASAP so we can get into the actual promoting of the Re-Union via ads and articles by the end of the month.

The current log jam as I see it is the lack of clarity regarding who's actually going to be there. Without knowing the attractions we cannot advance plan anything, or go to the mopar public and announce the event in detail.

Comments?

Regards,
Coop

Ok I ask fasbird if my car would be ok in the pm for this show I did not know if cars that were not back to show room were ok to come?I have had my car for 22yrs and have been tring to get it back to the way it was off the show room but you all know it takes time and money

Kevin, even an unrestored workbench like my car is welcome if its an A12 car

Thanks az it is a true car but went throw the drag stip time if you know what i mean but at least the guy kept most of the stuff that was on the car when he got it. Just whis I had the build sheet to prove it

Kevin don't be silly...

Of course your car is welcome. Like a class re-union no one returns in the same condition as when they were last together. LOL.

Some have had harder lives than others and show the wrinkles. Some have added weight and lost hair. Like those people our cars may not sit in their suspension as they originally did and look like they carry extra weight. Some people have had plastic surgery to disguise their age. In that vein my car looks like a piece of scrapple from all the hacking and body work. So forget about how your car looks. It's a 36 year RE-UNION and all cars will have changed.

Clones are also welcome. That's right WELCOME! We just want to distinguish where they park so that the public understanding between what's an A12 and what's a clone is not blurred.

Regards,
Coop

Coop, well said!

I talked to Ted Struse last night about 'Project Six Pack' and him coming to Carlisle. He is interested but there are logistical challenges to overcome. I'm less than 70 miles from him so hope to drive up and see him in my RR one of these nice weekends.

Its bliss living in Colorado in the fall, no snow, 50-60 degree days......its the life.


Once special guests are confirmed we will be mailing a copy of the flyer to all mopar clubs around the country. Hope to have the guests confirmed and the mailing out by early December.

When Kevin first PM'd me, I took his question as a blanket question about any liftoff hood treatment. Then he straightend me out, that his car was indead an A12! But, I had already posed the Clone question to the forum. I obviously left the member name out to protect the innocent(him), and the stupid(me).

But, as I thought about this subject of the Clones, it should have been asked anyhow. I believe Coop has the best idea. Maybe I can wrangle up another banner that says ...-A12 "Clones" Section-.

Kevin,

My car has a had a hard life and an very amature restoration. I am working right now just to get the 70s style sport mirrors off of it. But it will be there, nicks, dents, and yeh some bubbling.

But it stands proud.


Now as for the clones. Why can't we get nice windowshield registration cards made up?(to go along with Gary's)
That state real or clone along with owners name and other info.

I can work on that if it's a good idea.

Mike

Mike,

That is a good idea-- and in fact Miles suggested that also. He's in the middle of moving right now so I'm not surprised he's been away from the forum.

What about a cling sign about the size of a bumper sticker that simply says ' *A12 Lynch Road Boys* '. Sorta like saying our cars are the 'boyz' back in town for the re-union. We could put something like that, or any other message you guys want, on A12 windshields. Those cars without the signs would be the clones. That's just an idea.

Mike, if you want to work on this please go right ahead. We'll table all ideas on this forum for approval/opinions a few months from now. Brainstorm away!

Thanks again for the offer to help.

Regards,
Coop

Hey Gary, I'm about 98% sure that I'll be there with that R4 Six Pack Bee that was at the Nat's this past year and I'm going to try to have my F6 Bee presentable enough by then, so I can bring it too.

Wayne

Wayne,

You have a PM.

Roadrunner,

Please bring your car.

No negativity intended from us that are working on the organization of the Reunion. COOP's post was accurate in that a Reunion is by nature a regathering of the LOH cars that were built in a couple of months at the Lynch Road Plant.

He and I have talked on the phone and we agree that this should be a history lesson for us and others that attend the show, but mostly a lesson for non-owners so that they don't leave the show thinking that 3:23 gears came in an A12 or that anything but an M in the 5th position of the VIN is acceptable. Guests in attendance should leave the show feeling that they saw 40 A12 cars and that they all have some specific things in common.

We hope not to rub anyone who owns a replica.

Would you be interested in developing the replica format for the Re-Union? I agree with you in that it could be very good if done right. Lord knows there are some magnificent replicas out there. It just needs to be organized properly...and who better than someone who has a vested interest in one?

Think it over and let us know. BTW-Another guy who might be interested is Brian (BEEQUIK) and his extremely nice platinum Bee (see attached). Maybe the 2 of you would want to combine efforts to set this up? Just an idea.

Regards,
Coop

I would definetly be interested in helping with the "Replica Arrangemnts". I will jot down some guidelines later tonight and post them for some U&A. I will try to PM Brian and see what he has.

BTW, here is my car. I just picked up some steelies and have to get tires this spring.