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Did the plastic screens located on top of the cowl get secured by screws from the factory even though they "snap" into place?. I noticed there are hole provisions in the screens that line up with holes in the cowl, but don't see any evidence that screws were ever used? Thanks for any info. that can be provided.

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I've never seen any that used screws, even up through the end of B-body production in '79.


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My 71 R/T has & 74 SE had screws in the plastic cowl vents...

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My original paint 71 SSP has screws too...

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My 71 X- Nov. 70 built had screws; a 71 rr Dec. built car had screws; My current 71 rr July 71 built car has the snap-in cowl screens; also my 72 Satellite has snap in cowl screens

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My 71 X- Nov. 70 built had screws; a 71 rr Dec. built car had screws; My current 71 rr July 71 built car has the snap-in cowl screens; also my 72 Satellite has snap in cowl screens




Just to make sure I understand......, There was cowl screens produced that did not "snap-in" and only used screws to hold them in? The snap in style came in later years?

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Thanks for all the reply's so far. It appears that this may be a build date issue?? Just for the sake of clarification, the build date on my car is Jan 71 and it does not appear that any screws were ever screwed into the cowl holes, but they do snap in ??

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Very interesting.

My '72 Rallye screens snapped in. July 72 build out of Lynch Road.

My '77 Chrysler Cordoba and '79 Dodge Magnum both have snap in screens as well.

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Thanks for all the reply's so far. It appears that this may be a build date issue?? Just for the sake of clarification, the build date on my car is Jan 71 and it does not appear that any screws were ever screwed into the cowl holes, but they do snap in ??




I agree with the build date change and Jan could be the change over depending on the plant. My 71 Super Bee, Oct 70 built had screw in only ones, there were no snap in tabs. I spent months finding a replacement set. Not an easy part to find. My Oct 71 built Charger has snap in ones.

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My Lynch Road Jan 29 built Charger R/T has the screwed on screens.

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Thanks for all the reply's so far. It appears that this may be a build date issue?? Just for the sake of clarification, the build date on my car is Jan 71 and it does not appear that any screws were ever screwed into the cowl holes, but they do snap in ??




I agree with the build date change and Jan could be the change over depending on the plant. My 71 Super Bee, Oct 70 built had screw in only ones, there were no snap in tabs. I spent months finding a replacement set. Not an easy part to find. My Oct 71 built Charger has snap in ones.





to really figure it out could take some good research
it could be a plant/ date type thing.....
i have seen sheetmetal differances in panels in the same cars made from differant plants.

so where the supply of each kind of vents came from could matter.

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plant. My 71 gtx Oct 28 70 Windsor built had screw in only ones,


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My Lynch Road Jan 29 built Charger R/T has the screwed on screens.




It must have been an assembly plant thing and maybe division because my build date is Jan. 21, 1971 out of the St Louis plant and its a Plymouth not Dodge?? This is CRAZY!! I guess since mine are the snap in type with no screws I will leave it as is and consider it correct until I find out different. Thanks for all the reply's

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My February 71 Lynch Road car has both.

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plant. My 71 gtx Oct 28 70 Windsor built had screw in only ones,





my '71 rr from windsor has snap on

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My Lynch Road Jan 29 built Charger R/T has the screwed on screens.




I should amend my post for clarification to say they are screwed in but also have the snaps like Nick's Pink (I thought they all had snaps)

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My 71 R/T has & 74 SE had screws in the plastic cowl vents...


Me too

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Can you tell from this pic? Click Here

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Can you tell from this pic? Click Here




Nice Car!! A little had to see, but it appears that there are no screws in the cowl screens. Thanks for passing on this info.

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August 7 of 1970 and they are screwed in. Speacial screw also it has a shoulder on it so they can not be over tightened. My 74 is strictly snapped in.

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August 7 of 1970 and they are screwed in. Speacial screw also it has a shoulder on it so they can not be over tightened. My 74 is strictly snapped in.




Thanks 340cpe for your input. You raise another interesting question on what type screws were used. Are they a phillips head or ??.

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August 7 of 1970 and they are screwed in. Speacial screw also it has a shoulder on it so they can not be over tightened. My 74 is strictly snapped in.




Thanks 340cpe for your input. You raise another interesting question on what type screws were used. Are they a phillips head or ??.




Round head phillips.

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You guys that have snap in screens, are there no screw holes in the cowl?


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August 7 of 1970 and they are screwed in. Speacial screw also it has a shoulder on it so they can not be over tightened. My 74 is strictly snapped in.




Thanks 340cpe for your input. You raise another interesting question on what type screws were used. Are they a phillips head or ??.




Round head phillips.




Thanks for the close up pic. At least that mystery is solved

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You guys that have snap in screens, are there no screw holes in the cowl?




Sounds like GETX has the holes but that they hadn't ever had screws.

My question is do the screens themselves have the holes or the molded in areas for them if your car didn't use the screws? The point would be could you just drill holes in the screens to use screws.

I guess I should pay attention next time I see a b-body in the junkyard. Don't see many '71-4 ones anymore.

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Heres what I have.
71RR 10/70 screws only
71 Sat N/A and a 72 SSP 5/72 screws with snaps.
Have 8 more 71-73's that use snap in ones.
Have 2 74's both 11/73 that have snaps and no screw holes in the cowl.
So:
71/3 cowls have both screw and snap holes.
Sometime for 74's the screw holes in the cowl were deleted.
Earlier 71 screens have screw holes only and no snap tabs.
Mid 71 through 74 screens have both screw holes and snap tabs.
Atleast thats what I found on my cars.


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These screens should be the same between 2 and 4 door cars right?

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Heres what I have.
71RR 10/70 screws only
71 Sat N/A and a 72 SSP 5/72 screws with snaps.
Have 8 more 71-73's that use snap in ones.
Have 2 74's both 11/73 that have snaps and no screw holes in the cowl.
So:
71/3 cowls have both screw and snap holes.
Sometime for 74's the screw holes in the cowl were deleted.
Earlier 71 screens have screw holes only and no snap tabs.
Mid 71 through 74 screens have both screw holes and snap tabs.
Atleast thats what I found on my cars.





Excellent information. It looks like you have zeroed in on about the time of transition from screws to no screws and/or holes in the cowl. Very interesting. It looks like my Jan/71 build car falls about in the middle of that transition

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These screens should be the same between 2 and 4 door cars right?



yep.


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Great info. That explains why a 71 R/T owner that I gave a 71 upper cowl to.....basically did not believe it to be from a 71.

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Do any of you guys know where some 71 Charger parts cars might be located??

thans in advance !!

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August 7 of 1970 and they are screwed in. Speacial screw also it has a shoulder on it so they can not be over tightened. My 74 is strictly snapped in.




Thanks 340cpe for your input. You raise another interesting question on what type screws were used. Are they a phillips head or ??.




Round head phillips.



Not to complicate this issue any more then it already is, but another interesting fact regarding the screws used. According to the following Ebay listing, Two different style screws were used. Phillips and hex head Can this be for real? Can anyone confirm the hex head?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-ORIGI...sQ5fAccessories

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My 71 RR with SPD Dec 16 has screw only screens but it looks like the cowl has provisions for snap in vents.


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August 7 of 1970 and they are screwed in. Speacial screw also it has a shoulder on it so they can not be over tightened. My 74 is strictly snapped in.




Thanks 340cpe for your input. You raise another interesting question on what type screws were used. Are they a phillips head or ??.



Round head phillips.



Not to complicate this issue any more then it already is, but another interesting fact regarding the screws used. According to the following Ebay listing, Two different style screws were used. Phillips and hex head Can this be for real? Can anyone confirm the hex head?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-ORIGI...sQ5fAccessories




I myself have never seen hex heads used.


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I myself have never seen hex heads used.




I agree with Moparmarks. Also, "round head phillips" is AKA-pan head screws, same thing. Personally, I'd stay away from that ebag listing.

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My 71 RR with SPD Dec 16 has screw only screens but it looks like the cowl has provisions for snap in vents.




Mopargem, At which plant was your Road Runner built?

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I myself have never seen hex heads used.




I agree with Moparmarks. Also, "round head phillips" is AKA-pan head screws, same thing. Personally, I'd stay away from that ebag listing.





I figured as much. I think the guy on Ebay is just trying to sell some screws.

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My car was built in St Louis and you can still see a couple of the original rusty wide panhead phillips that have never been out. These screws do not have the waferhead offset like is common on other areas like the lower windshield molding or upper door channel molding for instance.

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My December 1970 Built - 1971 Superbee


I have the factory original cowl screens in place - I obviously threw away the factory screws at some point in the last 35 years and replaced with stainless steel pan head screws

Anyone sell factory original 1971 B Body cowl screen screws ?

I saw some 1971 E Body ones and they where not Phillip screws , but black phosphate 1/4" nut type screws ?

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i am no expert.
some had shoulder phillips head screws and some had hex head screws. i cant tell you the exact years and model applications.
on the later years they just snapped in.

the phillips look like this

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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens [Re: moparmarks] #2947016
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I just checked the cowl on my 1/26/71 SPD GTX,has the snap in screens the screw holes are present but I can clearly tell there was never any screws driven through them,the screens are burred in the burred trunk,I know I have parted several 71 Bs & can remember removing screws I actually thought mine where screwed on its only been apart since the early 80s,I most likely have both types around somewhere including the screws.

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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens [Re: GETX] #2949108
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My sept 70 Windsor built '71 RR has screw in screens.

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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens [Re: Mr T2U] #2949194
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Originally Posted by Mr T2U
i am no expert.
some had shoulder phillips head screws and some had hex head screws. i cant tell you the exact years and model applications.
on the later years they just snapped in.

the phillips look like this



http://www.billrolikenterprises.com/proddetail.php?prod=6028157-P


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