Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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My 71 X- Nov. 70 built had screws; a 71 rr Dec. built car had screws; My current 71 rr July 71 built car has the snap-in cowl screens; also my 72 Satellite has snap in cowl screens
Just to make sure I understand......, There was cowl screens produced that did not "snap-in" and only used screws to hold them in? The snap in style came in later years?
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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Very interesting.
My '72 Rallye screens snapped in. July 72 build out of Lynch Road.
My '77 Chrysler Cordoba and '79 Dodge Magnum both have snap in screens as well.
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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Thanks for all the reply's so far. It appears that this may be a build date issue?? Just for the sake of clarification, the build date on my car is Jan 71 and it does not appear that any screws were ever screwed into the cowl holes, but they do snap in ??
I agree with the build date change and Jan could be the change over depending on the plant. My 71 Super Bee, Oct 70 built had screw in only ones, there were no snap in tabs. I spent months finding a replacement set. Not an easy part to find. My Oct 71 built Charger has snap in ones.
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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Thanks for all the reply's so far. It appears that this may be a build date issue?? Just for the sake of clarification, the build date on my car is Jan 71 and it does not appear that any screws were ever screwed into the cowl holes, but they do snap in ??
I agree with the build date change and Jan could be the change over depending on the plant. My 71 Super Bee, Oct 70 built had screw in only ones, there were no snap in tabs. I spent months finding a replacement set. Not an easy part to find. My Oct 71 built Charger has snap in ones.
to really figure it out could take some good research it could be a plant/ date type thing..... i have seen sheetmetal differances in panels in the same cars made from differant plants.
so where the supply of each kind of vents came from could matter.
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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My Lynch Road Jan 29 built Charger R/T has the screwed on screens.
It must have been an assembly plant thing and maybe division because my build date is Jan. 21, 1971 out of the St Louis plant and its a Plymouth not Dodge?? This is CRAZY!! I guess since mine are the snap in type with no screws I will leave it as is and consider it correct until I find out different. Thanks for all the reply's
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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Snap in...September 70 built
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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plant. My 71 gtx Oct 28 70 Windsor built had screw in only ones,
my '71 rr from windsor has snap on
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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My Lynch Road Jan 29 built Charger R/T has the screwed on screens.
I should amend my post for clarification to say they are screwed in but also have the snaps like Nick's Pink (I thought they all had snaps)
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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My 71 R/T has & 74 SE had screws in the plastic cowl vents...
Me too
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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Can you tell from this pic? Click Here
Nice Car!! A little had to see, but it appears that there are no screws in the cowl screens. Thanks for passing on this info.
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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August 7 of 1970 and they are screwed in. Speacial screw also it has a shoulder on it so they can not be over tightened. My 74 is strictly snapped in.
Thanks 340cpe for your input. You raise another interesting question on what type screws were used. Are they a phillips head or ??.
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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August 7 of 1970 and they are screwed in. Speacial screw also it has a shoulder on it so they can not be over tightened. My 74 is strictly snapped in.
Thanks 340cpe for your input. You raise another interesting question on what type screws were used. Are they a phillips head or ??.
Round head phillips.
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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You guys that have snap in screens, are there no screw holes in the cowl?
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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August 7 of 1970 and they are screwed in. Speacial screw also it has a shoulder on it so they can not be over tightened. My 74 is strictly snapped in.
Thanks 340cpe for your input. You raise another interesting question on what type screws were used. Are they a phillips head or ??.
Round head phillips.
Thanks for the close up pic. At least that mystery is solved
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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You guys that have snap in screens, are there no screw holes in the cowl?
Sounds like GETX has the holes but that they hadn't ever had screws.
My question is do the screens themselves have the holes or the molded in areas for them if your car didn't use the screws? The point would be could you just drill holes in the screens to use screws.
I guess I should pay attention next time I see a b-body in the junkyard. Don't see many '71-4 ones anymore.
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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Heres what I have. 71RR 10/70 screws only 71 Sat N/A and a 72 SSP 5/72 screws with snaps. Have 8 more 71-73's that use snap in ones. Have 2 74's both 11/73 that have snaps and no screw holes in the cowl. So: 71/3 cowls have both screw and snap holes. Sometime for 74's the screw holes in the cowl were deleted. Earlier 71 screens have screw holes only and no snap tabs. Mid 71 through 74 screens have both screw holes and snap tabs. Atleast thats what I found on my cars.
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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Heres what I have. 71RR 10/70 screws only 71 Sat N/A and a 72 SSP 5/72 screws with snaps. Have 8 more 71-73's that use snap in ones. Have 2 74's both 11/73 that have snaps and no screw holes in the cowl. So: 71/3 cowls have both screw and snap holes. Sometime for 74's the screw holes in the cowl were deleted. Earlier 71 screens have screw holes only and no snap tabs. Mid 71 through 74 screens have both screw holes and snap tabs. Atleast thats what I found on my cars.
Excellent information. It looks like you have zeroed in on about the time of transition from screws to no screws and/or holes in the cowl. Very interesting. It looks like my Jan/71 build car falls about in the middle of that transition
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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My 71 RR with SPD Dec 16 has screw only screens but it looks like the cowl has provisions for snap in vents.
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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August 7 of 1970 and they are screwed in. Speacial screw also it has a shoulder on it so they can not be over tightened. My 74 is strictly snapped in.
Thanks 340cpe for your input. You raise another interesting question on what type screws were used. Are they a phillips head or ??.
Round head phillips.
Not to complicate this issue any more then it already is, but another interesting fact regarding the screws used. According to the following Ebay listing, Two different style screws were used. Phillips and hex head Can this be for real? Can anyone confirm the hex head?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-ORIGI...sQ5fAccessories
I myself have never seen hex heads used.
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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I myself have never seen hex heads used.
I agree with Moparmarks. Also, "round head phillips" is AKA-pan head screws, same thing. Personally, I'd stay away from that ebag listing.
I figured as much. I think the guy on Ebay is just trying to sell some screws.
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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My December 1970 Built - 1971 Superbee
I have the factory original cowl screens in place - I obviously threw away the factory screws at some point in the last 35 years and replaced with stainless steel pan head screws
Anyone sell factory original 1971 B Body cowl screen screws ?
I saw some 1971 E Body ones and they where not Phillip screws , but black phosphate 1/4" nut type screws ?
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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i am no expert. some had shoulder phillips head screws and some had hex head screws. i cant tell you the exact years and model applications. on the later years they just snapped in.
the phillips look like this
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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I just checked the cowl on my 1/26/71 SPD GTX,has the snap in screens the screw holes are present but I can clearly tell there was never any screws driven through them,the screens are burred in the burred trunk,I know I have parted several 71 Bs & can remember removing screws I actually thought mine where screwed on its only been apart since the early 80s,I most likely have both types around somewhere including the screws.
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Re: 71 B-body Cowl Screens
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My sept 70 Windsor built '71 RR has screw in screens.
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