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Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: Dragula] #918155
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Why not a FAST EZ efi?



I can buy a running Dakota for $500-$1500 and get every piece I need. All mopar and cheap

Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: demon] #918156
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As for the differences between the 500/518 case sizes, they're negligible. The overdrive section measures the same, and from that point forward you're talking the difference between a 904 and a 727. Both transmissions will require cutting the transmission cross member and welding a piece of fitted flat stock in its place. Make your decision based on the condition of the two, and intended use. Size matters not (obligatory Star Wars quote).

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Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: demon] #918157
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I am beginning the same type of swap on a 68 fury 4door (why?) although I am not using the whole harness. I am going to splice the original harness with the underhood one from the Dakota. I have a friend with some experience in this, but he says there are only 5 or so wires to splice on OBD1. As for fuel system, I have a '71 tank in the car already so it has some vapor return ports. The LS1 corvettes use a fuel filter with a built in regulator, it has in, out and return, so I plan on using an inline pump. I was able to score a deal on a 95 dak with a 5.2 but a blown trans, but my car has a good 727 so I am going to use it for now. Sorry for the long post, but I thought I was the last one trying to do a EFI magnum swap!

Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: MarkZ] #918158
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As for the differences between the 500/518 case sizes, they're negligible. The overdrive section measures the same, and from that point forward you're talking the difference between a 904 and a 727. Both transmissions will require cutting the transmission cross member and welding a piece of fitted flat stock in its place. Make your decision based on the condition of the two, and intended use. Size matters not (obligatory Star Wars quote).




actually, there was a post here years ago for E and '71 up B's that put a 518 in them WITHOUT cutting the t-bar xmember, but by trimming some of the ribs on the OD case....dunno if anyone has the pics saved anymore...


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Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: patrick] #918159
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A few of items to note:

1)The 92 5.2L was a return fuel system 40 psi with pump in the tank and a regulator on the fuel rail.93 up uses the returnless system with a bypass and pump in the tank.40 psi until 96.Switch the fuel rail to 93-95 type.

2)There is a very shallow Jeep tank that might bolt in.It has the pump and bypass in the tank.It will need to be modified slightly to fill it of course.

3)You can patch in the Magnum harness to the vehicle harness-8 wires


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Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: mike s] #918160
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A few of items to note:

1)The 92 5.2L was a return fuel system 40 psi with pump in the tank and a regulator on the fuel rail.93 up uses the returnless system with a bypass and pump in the tank.40 psi until 96.Switch the fuel rail to 93-95 type.

2)There is a very shallow Jeep tank that might bolt in.It has the pump and bypass in the tank.It will need to be modified slightly to fill it of course.

3)You can patch in the Magnum harness to the vehicle harness-8 wires



right on! Thanks. That's some good info

Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: demon] #918161
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Nothing to add, just watching this post too as I want to do something similar with my 4dr Satellite. I don't need a drag-strip terror, just want a reliable driver.



John

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Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: SattyNoCar] #918162
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Mark and Pat, thanks for the info on the trans differences and such. If anyone can find those older pic for shaving down the casing to make it fit, that would be excellent.

Also, is the gearing different between the two?

Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: roadrunninMark] #918163
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A500/42RH uses the low gear 904 setup: 2.74/1.54/1/.69 OD
A518/46RH uses the standard 727 setup, 2.45/1.45/1/.69 OD

I'm running a 42RH in my 5th ave. mark is switching from a 42RH to a 46RH.


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Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: patrick] #918164
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Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: ralphie361] #918165
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I am beginning the same type of swap on a 68 fury 4door (why?) although I am not using the whole harness. I am going to splice the original harness with the underhood one from the Dakota. I have a friend with some experience in this, but he says there are only 5 or so wires to splice on OBD1. As for fuel system, I have a '71 tank in the car already so it has some vapor return ports. The LS1 corvettes use a fuel filter with a built in regulator, it has in, out and return, so I plan on using an inline pump. I was able to score a deal on a 95 dak with a 5.2 but a blown trans, but my car has a good 727 so I am going to use it for now. Sorry for the long post, but I thought I was the last one trying to do a EFI magnum swap!




Update on this car. Here is some progress pics of the harness. It is pretty easy to strip this harness down to what is not needed. It will use the ASD and Fuel Pump relay.

The three loops of wire are fo 12v feed, 12v run/ign feed, and 12 out to fuel pump (from relay)

Still need to finish wrapping it back up, and tie up a couple loose ends.

Justin

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Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: wldtm] #918166
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Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: wldtm] #918167
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Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: wldtm] #918168
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Update on the Fury, engine out, trans notched, but I need a different converter. The one in the car had 11inch bolt spacing and I need one with 10 inch to fit inside the magnum flex plate. Should be bolted together in the next few weeks.

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Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: ralphie361] #918169
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Here is the car its going in.

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Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: ralphie361] #918170
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Update on the Fury, engine in, no problems there. Modified the gas pedal assembly to accept the dakota throttle cable, and the exhaust will have to be fabricated, but other than that no issues. Now for wiring and fuel system.

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Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: ralphie361] #918171
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Love your Fury. Great looking car!
The 5.2 looks like a natural in there.how about some details. Did you get the harness figured out?

Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: demon] #918172
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Great info, I'll be watching this. I have a 40 Plymouth with a 92 Dakota drivetrain and harness on the back burner. Sure hope a MOD will bumpe this to the tech archive when it's done....

Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: RodStRace] #918173
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The harness should be installed by the end of this week (time allowing). Hopefully some pics will be taken. If you want to build your own harness PM me if you need some help or I have another one done for this swap if you want to purchase one. It will be nice to see how this first one goes. This should be a very nice driver, that anyone can drive and start without setting the choke. Looks good Ralph!


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Re: 5.2 EFI swap into E body suggestions? [Re: wldtm] #918174
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did you swap out the column yet? or did you give up on that?

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