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Re: Which Engine 318 or 400? [Re: HotRodDave] #913649
01/27/11 12:13 PM
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another alternative, build the 318 like you plan (but I'd do a little more looking into the torque converter, look for a high stall, but tight converter), and then when you're feeling slow, toss a cetrifugal supercharger on it, boosting it by about 6-8psi...all of a sudden a 320hp/350 tq 318 will be putting out more like 450hp/480tq....

as far as gears, you could look into some 2.94's...they're not the easiest to find, but I think the best compromise gear for a non-od tranny in a car you might want to take on the highway.


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Re: Which Engine 318 or 400? [Re: HotRodDave] #913650
01/28/11 12:13 PM
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"I dare someone to explain what it means from a physics point of view what happens in a engine that is "working harder" and getting worse MPG" ??? maybe because you have to put your foot to the floor to get it moving, when all you need w/ a v8 is to nudge it a little.
go ahead build a performace motor and use 2.76's. I'm sure it will run killlller.

Re: Which Engine 318 or 400? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #913651
01/28/11 02:51 PM
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Buy a 1000 doller beeter civic or mitsu marage for weekday gas savings.
Build A BIG BLOCK FOR FUN AND WEEK END DRIVING !
#1 gas $ saved during the week will pay for week end gas !
#2 Plus you will feel more acepted at car shows with the big block car and not past over buy most with a wimp small block in there .
#3 I know small blocks can run but it does not mater to the masses
perception and coolness is everything that is why you have a 68 b-body in the first place anyway right ?


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Re: Which Engine 318 or 400? [Re: cjs69mope] #913652
01/28/11 04:31 PM
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HOW about a 66 valiant with a 170 3 on the tree for a daily driver? You would never be lost in the crowd.

Re: Which Engine 318 or 400? [Re: slantsic] #913653
01/29/11 07:37 AM
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do a little math and put in a t600 tremac. a little pricey but the best of both worlds. i have one going into a hemi b body with 3;90's

Re: Which Engine 318 or 400? [Re: shag766] #913654
01/29/11 01:29 PM
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OK, here's one.............

Put a 4" MP cast stroker crank in that 318 and have more power than a low compression 400 w/o all the required big block parts to make it happen.


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Re: Which Engine 318 or 400? [Re: Dean_Kuzluzski] #913655
01/29/11 01:45 PM
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Quote:

OK, here's one.............

Put a 4" MP cast stroker crank in that 318 and have more power than a low compression 400 w/o all the required big block parts to make it happen.




I like your thinking! But the "car show" crowd wouldn't be impressed by it, lol.

Re: Which Engine 318 or 400? [Re: dustergirl340] #913656
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Quote:

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OK, here's one.............

Put a 4" MP cast stroker crank in that 318 and have more power than a low compression 400 w/o all the required big block parts to make it happen.




I like your thinking! But the "car show" crowd wouldn't be impressed by it, lol.




Thank you! Thank you very much!

And that, is the beauty of it. Stealth hp & torque to tame those cocky big block guys. Top that lil' stroker with some ported Magnum heads, all on the low-$ side and it'll stun & amaze friends and aquaintances.


R.I.P.- Gary "Coop" Davis 02/09/68-05/13/04
Re: Which Engine 318 or 400? [Re: Dean_Kuzluzski] #913657
01/29/11 05:03 PM
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Quote:

Quote:

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OK, here's one.............

Put a 4" MP cast stroker crank in that 318 and have more power than a low compression 400 w/o all the required big block parts to make it happen.




I like your thinking! But the "car show" crowd wouldn't be impressed by it, lol.




Thank you! Thank you very much!

And that, is the beauty of it. Stealth hp & torque to tame those cocky big block guys. Top that lil' stroker with some ported Magnum heads, all on the low-$ side and it'll stun & amaze friends and aquaintances.




yeah dump all that money into a small block to equal the HP of a very mild BB build. makes sense. Do it for the 400 and you'll make twice the motor at the same price.. 408 318 small block vs. 512 400 BB.

Re: Which Engine 318 or 400? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #913658
01/29/11 08:25 PM
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The 318 is his car's original engine, so that in itself is cool. Stroked big blocks are fine if they are quick...I've seen many only running 12's.
BTW...a 408 would be a stroked 360, not 318.

Re: Which Engine 318 or 400? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #913659
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Twice the motor????

A 4" stroked 318 is a 394 or at best 396, not 408.

394 X 2 = 718!! NOT 512.

Lets keep it real folks.


R.I.P.- Gary "Coop" Davis 02/09/68-05/13/04
Re: Which Engine 318 or 400? [Re: Dean_Kuzluzski] #913660
01/29/11 08:49 PM
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Twice the motor????

A 4" stroked 318 is a 394 or at best 396, not 408.

394 X 2 = 718!! NOT 512.

Lets keep it real folks.





just run TWICE AS GOOD. a 318 2bbl in a B-body is as impressive as a super model w/ fakies. Do me a favor build a 394 storker for your b-body and let me build a 512 on the same budget. I'll spot you 3 lights.
If the OP just wants a nice car that sounds good and drives nice by all means do the 318...if he wants ANY performance go big or go home.

Re: Which Engine 318 or 400? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #913661
01/30/11 02:30 AM
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Quote:

Quote:

Twice the motor????

A 4" stroked 318 is a 394 or at best 396, not 408.

394 X 2 = 718!! NOT 512.

Lets keep it real folks.





just run TWICE AS GOOD. a 318 2bbl in a B-body is as impressive as a super model w/ fakies. Do me a favor build a 394 storker for your b-body and let me build a 512 on the same budget. I'll spot you 3 lights.
If the OP just wants a nice car that sounds good and drives nice by all means do the 318...if he wants ANY performance go big or go home.


Ya does small block strokers are terds. At this point the small block stroker would be much cheaper build for a mild performance engine he has everything he nneds to run a small block. and get some nice heads cheap to make the stroker scream. The amount of money in heads alone for a 512 would put it way over in cost for a street car

Re: Which Engine 318 or 400? [Re: OrangeProwler] #913662
02/01/11 12:00 PM
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Just wanted to say thank you everyone. Looks like I will go the 400 route for now. Not looking at building a stroker engine. Just something fun and something to cruise/hot rod in leisure times. I really like the 318 though.

Re: Which Engine 318 or 400? [Re: OrangeProwler] #913663
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I think I will also upgrade to a set of 3.23s for the car as well.

Re: Which Engine 318 or 400? [Re: OrangeProwler] #913664
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Just more food for thought. This was a 318 build for MPG. Anyway have fun with the 400 iam sure it would be a blast

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