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Re: 430" small block build
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you better go buy all these parts now..
cause when dave publishes it in a magazine...
the parts will all go to back orders...lol..
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365" Iron J heads,,3480lbs best 1.39 60ft on SS springs.10.54,124 mph ...6.67 1/8th et.average 60fts 1.46 w/ small cam &.063 no2 pill tagged & insured
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Re: 430" small block build
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03/14/11 09:29 AM
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OK - a few updates - the heads are at Shady Dell Speed Shop to get the port work done. The cam selected will require a 954 spring ( double with damper ). This required a tool steel retainer and 10 degree lock.  The lifters are the COMP 8043 lifters that have the link bars in the front as opposed to the older style 828 lifters. These should require no grinding on the block and since the block is tubed the ability of the lifter to pushrod oil is not going to be used.  Side shot of the lifters. 
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Re: 430" small block build
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03/15/11 03:33 PM
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Re: 430" small block build
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03/15/11 06:10 PM
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.............and since the block is tubed the ability of the lifter to pushrod oil is not going to be used.
You do know, by not having oil pressure at the lifter, you are
giving up one of the another added features of that lifter?
EDM oiling to the needle bearing axle.
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Re: 430" small block build
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03/15/11 10:08 PM
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.............and since the block is tubed the ability of the lifter to pushrod oil is not going to be used.
You do know, by not having oil pressure at the lifter, you are
giving up one of the another added features of that lifter?
EDM oiling to the needle bearing axle.
yes I am aware of the loss of oil direct to the axle. The 828's live with splash oiling.
In your opinion Vic - Do you think it will be an issue for my setup?
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Re: 430" small block build
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03/15/11 10:12 PM
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I would want to take advantage of the direct axle oiling it should make them hold up even better.
70 duster full chassis super pro 416 CNC Indybrock heads 727 w/brake
best so far 1.212 60 6.219 in 1/8 at 110.88 9.768 at 137.81 1/4
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Re: 430" small block build
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04/16/11 11:09 PM
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Can you share any insight on the cam and head flow for this beast?....I happen to be running the same springs but with the Ti retainers.
also are you looking for a moderate RPM motor or a high-winder?
I was prepared to go TI if I had to but Ryan recommended against them - stating they would get chewed up by the damper of the spring. I researched it and Manley and Comp also concur with Ryan. I never doubted Ryan, I just wanted to see if there was a common knowledge I was missing, and apparently the manufacturers are aware of the issue.
just an FYI - I have no idea on the longevity we are talking about but the tool steel is regarded when used with any damper.
Ryan was kind enough to spec out a comp custom roller for me to coincide with his heads - The comp specs:
Dur 258/262, Lift .639/645 w/ 1.5's
I'm looking at this point to make this a midrange motor - 3000 - 6500 - Ryan stated he could throw a bit more duration for more top end, but stated it was a safe, killer piece from 3200 - 6400.
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and to the machine shop for letting all the work be seen 
