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Re: Crower says no to Synthetic motor oil [Re: notchbackcuda] #912195
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Re: Crower says no to Synthetic motor oil [Re: dwayne welder] #912196
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I beleive a lot of the high dollar imports, Lexus, BMW, Jaguars, Mercedes Benz as well as some others come from the factory with pure sybthetic oils in the engines. I think that maybe some American cars do also, maybe not I know a lot of NHRA class racers swore that there cars pick up ET and MPH when they switch to multi viscoty synthetic oils


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Re: Crower says no to Synthetic motor oil [Re: notchbackcuda] #912197
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fascinating. i've used both synthetic and conventional with excellent results either way. mosier specified conventional in my mosier 60, but they couldn't tell me why.





My Strange S60 had a sticker on it warning against synthetic lube.




My strange 60 came with 3 bottles of this.

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Re: Crower says no to Synthetic motor oil [Re: Cab_Burge] #912198
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I beleive a lot of the high dollar imports, Lexus, BMW, Jaguars, Mercedes Benz as well as some others come from the factory with pure sybthetic oils in the engines. I think that maybe some American cars do also, maybe not I know a lot of NHRA class racers swore that there cars pick up ET and MPH when they switch to
multi viscoty synthetic oils

The new vettes and mine 2000 Transam firehawk and i even think ford did with thier 03-04 corbas. My 97 honda cbr900 picked up a tenth going to mobil 1 15-50 . also i forgot my wifes 06 gto come from the factory using mobil 1 syn

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Re: Crower says no to Synthetic motor oil [Re: fasthawk6] #912199
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We use nothing but synthetic in all our engines.Most oils,synthetic and non-synthetic come from a small group of less than a half dozen refineries.Most all oils from most sources are similar except oil with a heavy parafin base such as Pennsyvania base oil.Then here's where it takes a turn,different brand names add their "snake oil and dye additives".These additives come from another source of less than a half dozen suppliers.The final blending is done by the brand name oil companys and marketed.When we did construction work at Heinz Food here in Pittsburgh,we we shocked to see them how many different soup and condiments for different name brands we actually made at the Heinz facility,same for oil refineries.Also we work around fuel depot at the river and seen many different brand fuel companys filling their tankers from the same tank farms and barges.

Re: Crower says no to Synthetic motor oil [Re: fasthawk6] #912200
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I beleive a lot of the high dollar imports, Lexus, BMW, Jaguars, Mercedes Benz as well as some others come from the factory with pure sybthetic oils in the engines. I think that maybe some American cars do also, maybe not I know a lot of NHRA class racers swore that there cars pick up ET and MPH when they switch to
multi viscoty synthetic oils

The new vettes and mine 2000 Transam firehawk and i even think ford did with thier 03-04 corbas. My 97 honda cbr900 picked up a tenth going to mobil 1 15-50 . also i forgot my wifes 06 gto come from the factory using mobil 1 syn


You can add the Crossfire to that list. My 04 X-fire takes Mobile 1 synthetic from the factory - 7500 mile oil change interval.


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Re: Crower says no to Synthetic motor oil [Re: dartman366] #912201
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I ran synthetic in my 8.75 a several of years ago, and did not like the scuffed look on the teeth, switched back to dino oil and problem went away.




Exact same thing with us. Now we use Dewco lube which isn't full synthetic.

Re: Crower says no to Synthetic motor oil [Re: BobR] #912202
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i use dewco,,, but probably bought the sales pitch from don,, plus maskin used it in their pro stock car..

i ran a hemi on teuton's dyno about 6 or so years ago,, i was given a bunch of mobil 1 syn oil,, like you buy at the parts store,, in the gray bottle,,, i ran the motor with 10-30 penzoil basic oil,, switched to mobil 1 and lost about 5avg horsepower. i thought mobil one was crap but then was told you need the red bottle,, thats the racing oil,, it has zinc in it... the gray bottles have almost no zinc,, ill never run mobil one in anything i own again,, its red line, valvoline vr, or joe gibbs

Re: Crower says no to Synthetic motor oil [Re: Cab_Burge] #912203
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I beleive a lot of the high dollar imports, Lexus, BMW, Jaguars, Mercedes Benz as well as some others come from the factory with pure sybthetic oils in the engines. I think that maybe some American cars do also, maybe not I know a lot of NHRA class racers swore that there cars pick up ET and MPH when they switch to multi viscoty synthetic oils




Corvettes come with Mobil one for sure. Still don't think it's any better for regular use. Higher RPM for the same viscosity? I'd have to see that to believe it. No difference in my junk. It's better in extreme heat conditions that street or drag motors are unlikely to see.

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i use dewco,,, but probably bought the sales pitch from don,, plus maskin used it in their pro stock car..

i ran a hemi on teuton's dyno about 6 or so years ago,, i was given a bunch of mobil 1 syn oil,, like you buy at the parts store,, in the gray bottle,,, i ran the motor with 10-30 penzoil basic oil,, switched to mobil 1 and lost about 5avg horsepower. i thought mobil one was crap but then was told you need the red bottle,, thats the racing oil,, it has zinc in it... the gray bottles have almost no zinc,, ill never run mobil one in anything i own again,, its red line, valvoline vr, or joe gibbs




I agree. Mobil one for the street is formulated for lower emissions. We use nothing but Brad Penn synthetic blend. Our crew chief/engine builder swears by it.

Re: Crower says no to Synthetic motor oil [Re: BobR] #912205
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My 528 did not like Mobil 1 on the dyno, lost 17 ft lbs torque. Tried Royal purple at the track, ABA test, RP cost me .1 ET. Back to conventional oil for me in the motor, Syn in the diff.


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Re: Crower says no to Synthetic motor oil [Re: gregsdart] #912206
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Amazing the different experiences people have. Wonder how many problems are really lube related . I run Royal Purple full synthetic in my 408. Three years now. Change it once a year. No abnormal wear or scuffing problems that I have noticed - and I have had several bad over heats due to blown belts. I usually run one or two grades lighter in viscosity than if I were running petroleum based oil. Definitely believe there is a friction advantage with synthetics - without film loss. I do run a zinc additive with it as I am running a large flat tappet hyd.

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Amazing the different experiences people have. Wonder how many problems are really lube related . I run Royal Purple full synthetic in my 408. Three years now. Change it once a year. No abnormal wear or scuffing problems that I have noticed - and I have had several bad over heats due to blown belts. I usually run one or two grades lighter in viscosity than if I were running petroleum based oil. Definitely believe there is a friction advantage with synthetics - without film loss. I do run a zinc additive with it as I am running a large flat tappet hyd.




I think that the last sentence to your post is the difference.

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Could be?? My edit was that last sentence. I guess that's my security blanket Been running the same flat teppet ( over .600 lift ) for 3 years now, so I probably don't need the additive anymore.


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Re: Crower says no to Synthetic motor oil [Re: Darryls-Demon] #912209
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I run AMS Oil dominator oil no problems running a 15w-50 it has a high zinc content in it

Re: Crower says no to Synthetic motor oil [Re: Crizila] #912210
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Could be?? My edit was that last sentence. I guess that's my security blanket Been running the same flat teppet ( over .600 lift ) for 3 years now, so I probably don't need the additive anymore.




I have never ran an additive with my .672 flat tappet, just straight street Mobil 1 10w-30.

I just recently pulled the heads for more port work and bigger valves for my new stroker and the cam and lifters still look great. It's an older Hughes/Engle cam and lifters. 440# springs over the nose of the cam too. The Hughes recommended 330# springs wouldn't rev past 7500.


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how much extra oil do you guys put in with a fresh motor over what is usual once its been run? like if its got a 7 qt system do you put 7 in it fresh,, or 9? or??

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how much extra oil do you guys put in with a fresh motor over what is usual once its been run? like if its got a 7 qt system do you put 7 in it fresh,, or 9? or??




I don't put extra oil in it, I think the chance for aeration would be much worse on an engine.


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No extra. I run an 8 qt. pan and I run 8 qts. in it.


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well you have to fill the oil holes,, pushrods,, and wet the inside of the motor,,,, i usually see a qt and a half on my motor when its new,,, i pour in 9.5 qts,,, prime it,,, drain the pan and have 8 in the bucket..

i know a few guys who have spun bearings cause they put their motor together and just ran the "usual" amount,, which really was a qt or two low

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