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SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET #907434
01/17/11 05:36 PM
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ANY ADVICE GUYS? LOOKINF AT SOMETHING IN THE 236-248 AT .050


1970 Challenger 1970 Road Runner 1970 Duster 1968 Charger 1969 Charger 2005 Ram Quad 1500
Re: SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET [Re: Wedge7070] #907435
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I got one much like that in my Hemi, a Comp cams grind. The specs are straight out of AndyF's Hemi book. (Correction brain fart, Whoops its RichN who wrote the hemi book this cam is out of.) He said it should run on the street with very little maintenance. I used Best Machines roller lifters w pressurized oiling to the roller bearing and the perp. oil holes.
spec are crh 4123b
246 254 @ .50 .646 .639 lift mines an EFI cam so its on a 114 LSA

Last edited by HemiRick; 01/17/11 05:55 PM.

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Rick
68 Coronet R/T 440 & 68 Charger 528 Hemi,and 5 Challengers! 6 cyl, 318, 360, 383, 451
Re: SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET [Re: HemiRick] #907436
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Thanks for the input. Andy F is a wealth of knowledge, I have his bigblock book.


1970 Challenger 1970 Road Runner 1970 Duster 1968 Charger 1969 Charger 2005 Ram Quad 1500
Re: SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET [Re: Wedge7070] #907437
01/17/11 08:53 PM
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I have a comp cams 588 solid roller. I'll let ya know in a few weeks how it works.


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Re: SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET [Re: Wedge7070] #907438
01/17/11 09:32 PM
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Take a look at the Lunati VooDoo Rollers.

Re: SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET [Re: Stanton] #907439
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Get a hold of Scott Brown formerly straightline performance or Damon Kuhn of Fugly racing in TX.

Both are cam gurus. I would lay money they will give you a cam that will make more power than an off the shelf job and still be smaller than you are expecting.

I have seen both of thier cams in action. One in a pump gas hemi making 851 with something like a 640ish lift the other in a wedge in that ball park on race gas. The wedge is a low 9 high 8 second car and comes in at 3200 if my mind does not fail me. Oh and both are under 500cid.

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Yes I will use one of those 2 for my next project and for the freshen up I need to do to my BB when funds allow.

Re: SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET [Re: HemiRick] #907440
01/17/11 09:56 PM
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Rich Nedbel? of FASTMAN EFI designed a camshaft for a 511 street HEMI with FAST fuel injection for me. It was very tame and docile on the street and the as cast Stage V HEMI heads it made 721 horsepower. Nice camshaft and the FAST fuel injection works AWESOME!!!! Rich knows his fuel injection stuff.


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Re: SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET [Re: PUNK] #907441
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The cam companies I have talked with don't recommend a solid roller for the street due to durability issues. Just sayin.

Re: SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET [Re: ] #907442
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The cam companies I have talked with don't recommend a solid roller for the street due to durability issues. Just sayin.


Maybe some lobe designs but my solid roller Isky`s been kickin for 6-years street/strip and changed springs and re-built the lifters after several thousand miles and is still going strong. It`s .680-.660 lift w/275-280@ .050..............just saying.


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Re: SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET [Re: ] #907443
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The cam companies I have talked with don't recommend a solid roller for the street due to durability issues. Just sayin.




From their perspective, there is not much up side, mostly risk in recommending a solid roller to a customer for street service. I would guess that most cam suppliers and distributors will recommend against them unless they know you or have a good sense of the type of customer you are. Obviously, the valve action is faster, and the spring pressures higher. Your valvetrain will see considerably more stress and it is silly to think that it isnt at a higher risk of catastrophic failure. My guess is that some customers will then blame the cam company and/or distributor for the failure.

Re: SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET [Re: BSB67] #907444
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I have one in my Challenger and so far it is great. I have appox 2000 miles on it.
My advice, make sure you have Very Good valve springs and Good rockerarms like T&D or Jessel.

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Re: SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET [Re: Darryls-Demon] #907445
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I have one in my Challenger and so far it is great. I have appox 2000 miles on it.
My advice, make sure you have Very Good valve springs and Good rockerarms like T&D or Jessel.


OR, Harland-sharps.....


72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
Re: SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET [Re: Thumperdart] #907446
01/18/11 02:09 AM
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I have used mine for street and strip since 2003, I check the lash at the begining of the driving season, and before I race it, maybe 2 more times during the year. I'm checking the lash and not adjusting them very often. my

Re: SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET [Re: Wedge7070] #907447
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Try the comp xtreme solid roller profiles they are pretty good off the shelf cams.

Re: SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET [Re: Twin Turbo Mower] #907448
01/18/11 03:45 AM
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The problem that most don't think about with a solid roller street combo is that street engines idle a lot more than race engines. Without the splash lubrication on the rollers, they can and will fail. And it's much more catastrophic than a flat tappet cam that goes flat. Direct oiling to the rollers is the way to go even on a mild solid roller setup. You NEED enough spring pressure to keep the roller on the lobe though. If it bounces it WILL destroy the lifter.

Re: SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET [Re: dodgeboy11] #907449
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they work great on the street,just dont buy the cheapest valvetraincomponents and keep it sane and it will work a long time, im not worried about keeping them alive at idle either, the cam and lifters gets plenty of oil from above,start an engine and let it idle for a while without valvecovers and you will see what im talking about

Re: SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET [Re: Wedge7070] #907450
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ANY ADVICE GUYS? LOOKINF AT SOMETHING IN THE 236-248 AT .050



My old street driven Duster seen in my sig pic (now HEMIFRED's) has a Scott Brown-designed solid roller cam. Coupled with Comp roller lifters, it was totally trouble free. The only maintenance item was the bronze gear, which I replaced every two years. Specs: duration @ .050, 238º intake/246º exhaust, .625 lift intake/.604 lift exahust, on 112º lobe separation.


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Re: SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET [Re: DusterDave] #907451
01/18/11 03:24 PM
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What are you guys running for the drive gear?
That's the part I'd be worried about, getting bronze all over the inside of the motor....

Re: SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET [Re: RodStRace] #907452
01/18/11 09:36 PM
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find out what the heads flow,and then call bullit cams,,solid roller no prob on the street,just dont skimp on spring,lifters and rockers

Re: SOLID ROLLER FOR THE STREET [Re: RodStRace] #907453
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What are you guys running for the drive gear?
That's the part I'd be worried about, getting bronze all over the inside of the motor....


My gear has going on four yeasr on it, racing and street. Some gears live without wear and some wear faster than others I wish I knew how to tell the good from the not so good, but I don't There was a employee at Crane Cams that had a large C.I. Indy stroker wedge motor in a early RR that ran the Hot Rod tour, One Lap around America as well as several other long cruise events, he had 70,000 miles on his brtonze gear when I talked to him about the gears wearing I was trying to buy a two piece cam core, stock front with oil pump gear and all the rest steel, to have ground by Comp Cams for my street motor back before Crane went BK. Crane was the only cam maker that had them back then, I ended up buying a steel solid roller cam from Comp Cams and have been running it every sense with absolutely no troubles with the bronze gear and oil pump shaft I bought from Mopar


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