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TTI headers v. el cheapo #90155 07/18/08 02:59 AM 07/18/08 02:59 AM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,112 New Jersey, US of A PlumCrazy73Dodge OP top fuel
PlumCrazy73Dodge OP top fuel Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,112 New Jersey, US of A	does TTI's small block headers have a different bend to them than the cheapos? I know they have a lot better flanges and are a lot better....do they hang down the same hieght as the cheapos? I have a 318 with summit headers and they scrape the ground when you hit a dip in the road sometimes if its a wierd dip......did not want to fork out dough to scrape up nice headers... 73 plumcrazy challenger - 318/904, edelbrock performer 600cfm carb, performer intake and cam. Eddy Alum. Heads 3.91 locker, Doug's headers, accurate ltd. exhaust 73 Cuda - Triple Black 340 4 speed MIKE

Re: TTI headers v. el cheapo [Re: PlumCrazy73Dodge] #90156 07/18/08 03:33 AM 07/18/08 03:33 AM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central RobX4406 I Live Here
RobX4406 I Live Here Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central	Dougs and tti fit up tight. The most all the cheap ones are copies of hookers. they almost all hang below the steering gear on the drivers side.

Re: TTI headers v. el cheapo [Re: RobX4406] #90157 07/18/08 04:10 AM 07/18/08 04:10 AM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,337 the house on the left. C cogen80 master
cogen80 master C Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,337 the house on the left.	Quote: Dougs and tti fit up tight. The most all the cheap ones are copies of hookers. they almost all hang below the steering gear on the drivers side.

Re: TTI headers v. el cheapo [Re: cogen80] #90158 07/18/08 06:42 AM 07/18/08 06:42 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,756 London, England Gavin top fuel
Gavin top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,756 London, England	Yup, to be honest ground clearance was the reason I went with TTI's over cheapo's. I had enough of scraping my bottom over every bump!

Re: TTI headers v. el cheapo [Re: PlumCrazy73Dodge] #90159 07/18/08 07:09 AM 07/18/08 07:09 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 48 IL 71dusta member
71dusta member Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 48 IL	I have a 71 duster and I used to have coated hooker headers and scraped them everywhere even my own driveway. I just installed tti step headers on my car a few weeks ago and they installed like a dream with lots of clearance on everything, even my mini-starter slid in afterwards! My car is lowered quite a bit so I had to get them, I am so happy, I would never buy another header again. 4559123-viperfront.jpg (34 downloads) Automotive and Kustom Art www.nategrice.blogspot.com

Re: TTI headers v. el cheapo [Re: 71dusta] #90160 07/18/08 07:52 AM 07/18/08 07:52 AM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,041 michigan woods imfixinmopars426 master
imfixinmopars426 master Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,041 michigan woods	i had a 68 dart w/ a 340 and some coated cheap headers and they sucked.hit the ground,even locked the steering up under full throttle,nice. oil filter hassles ect ect ect. went w/ tti steps and its possible! someone made a quality header for a a body wow. they fit perfect,no hassles,no stupid 90 deg adapter ect.best money i ever spent,period on headers.

Re: TTI headers v. el cheapo [Re: PlumCrazy73Dodge] #90161 07/18/08 08:13 AM 07/18/08 08:13 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	I'd personally never buy a anything from TTi it's way to expensive. The dart I had came with a set of TTi "step headers" and complete 3" exhaust. It fit nice but I have a freind w/ a BB dart w/ the Summit 3" kit and it fits nice too. My swingr had the nickel plated headers but after a few years they started getting a little rusty. I have used Summit brand or, Heddmans on big and small block cars. Mostly b-bodys and have never had a clearance issue or had to "ding" them. I strip them and paint them w/ high temp paint and put them on. The set I had on my 67 coronet looked nice after 3 years. The trick to any header is to take your time. Get the motor up and steering out of the way and they should go on nice. Especially on a small block. Performance wise you not going to lose much if anything. Good luck.

Re: TTI headers v. el cheapo [Re: Mr.Yuck] #90162 07/18/08 10:04 AM 07/18/08 10:04 AM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley RodStRace I Live Here
RodStRace I Live Here Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley	I put el cheapos on my 70 Barracuda 318. Kinda tough and they dragged on stuff (car was low). I also put el cheapos on the 340 Demon. MAJOR pain, dragged, leaked (probably due to all the bumps from below) and generally were a hassle. I have no personal experience with TTIs, but have seen them in person and have heard good things about them.

Re: TTI headers v. el cheapo [Re: PlumCrazy73Dodge] #90163 07/18/08 10:55 AM 07/18/08 10:55 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 666 Anywhere the British Secret Se... M Moonraker mopar
Moonraker mopar M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 666 Anywhere the British Secret Se...	Go cheap in an A-body and you'll regret it most cheapo's fit like crap in A bodies, and require heavy mods in some cases, atleast on the drivers side, and hang way to low to boot. The passenger side is cavernous compared to the drivers and cheapos work there fine in most cases. To bad you couldnt buy headers individually and go TTI for the drivers and cheap on the passenger side . I bought TTI's for the Duster and was very pleased with the fit, just a few minor mods since all cars are not built exactly the same. But if you like a challenge and want to save some dough go cheap, but whats your time worth to you. Your working with a B or E-body it looks like from your sig so cheapos fit quit a bit better in those body styles. Last edited by Mopar jihad; 07/18/08 10:57 AM.

Re: TTI headers v. el cheapo [Re: Moonraker] #90164 07/18/08 11:47 AM 07/18/08 11:47 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,978 Southaven, MS B BossRide top fuel
BossRide top fuel B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,978 Southaven, MS	I asked this same question a year or two ago and one guy told me he would pick up cans on the side of the road to raise money for TTIs before he bought another set of cheapies... that always stuck in my head as being funny and probably true. So I turned down a free pair of Hooker headers and saved and bought a set of TTIs and they are awesome. They were worth the wait and price. They went right in, have some huge flanges, I didn't have to jack up the motor or ding anything to get them in, and I'm running my stock starter. The only thing that ever scrapes are the collector flanges but my car sits pretty low. Save, purchase, and be happy. The Blue Goose My instagram: Bossride

Re: TTI headers v. el cheapo [Re: BossRide] #90165 07/18/08 01:14 PM 07/18/08 01:14 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,161 Los Angeles, CA JF_Moparts super stock
JF_Moparts super stock Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,161 Los Angeles, CA	I've had very good luck with Hedman block hugger headers. I have the longer pitman and idler arms in my steering linkage and therefore the TTI's won't fit. In fact, it was a pain finding headers that would fit, so I went with the Hedman. Since they are shorter pipes than most other headers, maybe I'm not breathing as well as I could, but I think the performance is great. Jim

Re: TTI headers v. el cheapo [Re: BossRide] #90166 07/18/08 01:17 PM 07/18/08 01:17 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,112 New Jersey, US of A PlumCrazy73Dodge OP top fuel
PlumCrazy73Dodge OP top fuel Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,112 New Jersey, US of A	yeah, i have thew summits modeled after the hooker on there and the one driver's side pipe is basically crushed in half already from hitting the ground so I am rebuilding my engine anyway so i am going with the tti's....thanks for the info......I finally have a real job now and some extra $ 73 plumcrazy challenger - 318/904, edelbrock performer 600cfm carb, performer intake and cam. Eddy Alum. Heads 3.91 locker, Doug's headers, accurate ltd. exhaust 73 Cuda - Triple Black 340 4 speed MIKE

Re: TTI headers v. el cheapo [Re: PlumCrazy73Dodge] #90167 07/18/08 02:14 PM 07/18/08 02:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 357 The Garden State LimelightCuda enthusiast
LimelightCuda enthusiast Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 357 The Garden State	I have Hedmanns with a BB/e body. They hit the steering box. I had to put in manual steering. I'm having arm problems so I'm going back to PS. I'm either going to have to smash up the headers or save up for TTIs. Thanks for the info. Phil 1970 Barracuda Gran Coupe 1970 A66 Challenger Convertible

Re: TTI headers v. el cheapo [Re: LimelightCuda] #90168 07/18/08 02:37 PM 07/18/08 02:37 PM
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lewtot184 master L Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,916 usa	i have 2" tti's on my 440-6 engine in my 65 coronet. after the engine is raised up the headers just fall on. i'm amazed at how well those big pipes fit, . putting the mini-starter in took some patience, .

Re: TTI headers v. el cheapo [Re: lewtot184] #90169 07/18/08 02:48 PM 07/18/08 02:48 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central RobX4406 I Live Here
RobX4406 I Live Here Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central	Dougs cost about 539 for ceramic coated ones and 389 for uncoated. Less than tti and fit just as nice. I have cars with both tti and Dougs. I like the Dougs better,

Re: TTI headers v. el cheapo [Re: BossRide] #90170 07/18/08 03:10 PM 07/18/08 03:10 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,337 the house on the left. C cogen80 master
cogen80 master C Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,337 the house on the left.	Quote: I asked this same question a year or two ago and one guy told me he would pick up cans on the side of the road to raise money for TTIs before he bought another set of cheapies... that always stuck in my head as being funny and probably true. i know i always thought they were too much money until i finally broke down and bought a set. and like that guy that will pick up cans from the side of the road my car will sit until i save the money for a set . will not use that hooker,headman junk again.

Re: TTI headers v. el cheapo [Re: cogen80] #90171 07/18/08 04:07 PM 07/18/08 04:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,652 Central Ky, area C CHRYCOFAN top fuel
CHRYCOFAN top fuel C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,652 Central Ky, area	Listen to Rob above.....Check out the Dougs. We put a set of Dougs on a Duster back in the 70's & I remember how the tubes ran.....exactly like the TTI's I have on my Dart. The one tube on the driver side was a slip tube & went around the T-bar just like the TTI's & they didn't run under the steering linkage. If they're the same now (and I think they are )they're cheaper, still have thick flanges & 16 ga tubing. A buddy just put a set of Dougs on a B motor 66 B-body& they fell in. TTI basically copied the Dougs as far as I'm concerned. If I'd looked more back when I bought my TTI's I'd have Dougs there instead. Check them out. Butch

Re: TTI headers v. el cheapo [Re: CHRYCOFAN] #90172 07/18/08 04:56 PM 07/18/08 04:56 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central RobX4406 I Live Here
RobX4406 I Live Here Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central	Quote: Listen to Rob above.....Check out the Dougs. We put a set of Dougs on a Duster back in the 70's & I remember how the tubes ran.....exactly like the TTI's I have on my Dart. The one tube on the driver side was a slip tube & went around the T-bar just like the TTI's & they didn't run under the steering linkage. If they're the same now (and I think they are )they're cheaper, still have thick flanges & 16 ga tubing. A buddy just put a set of Dougs on a B motor 66 B-body& they fell in. TTI basically copied the Dougs as far as I'm concerned. If I'd looked more back when I bought my TTI's I'd have Dougs there instead. Check them out. Butch No slip tubes on the Dougs SB A's anymore. No trouble for me getting a mini-starter without messing with the header flange bolts. Hard to beat Dougs for fit AND price. IMO, tti are overpriced for what they are. I've really never found the step tube to 1 3/4" to be a significant advantage from a performance standpoint. If tti's were the same price as Dougs... I'd buy Dougs!

Re: TTI headers v. el cheapo [Re: RobX4406] #90173 07/18/08 06:22 PM 07/18/08 06:22 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,112 New Jersey, US of A PlumCrazy73Dodge OP top fuel
PlumCrazy73Dodge OP top fuel Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,112 New Jersey, US of A	Will do thanks...info was good 73 plumcrazy challenger - 318/904, edelbrock performer 600cfm carb, performer intake and cam. Eddy Alum. Heads 3.91 locker, Doug's headers, accurate ltd. exhaust 73 Cuda - Triple Black 340 4 speed MIKE

Re: TTI headers v. el cheapo [Re: RobX4406] #90174 07/18/08 10:58 PM 07/18/08 10:58 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 571 Western NC 68Bullit mopar
68Bullit mopar Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 571 Western NC	Are the Dougs available in a thermal barrier ceramic header?

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