LA built cars, lets find out more, More info needed.
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Im gonna keep the post active for a bit as an owner of a LA built car, and a guy who want more input from anyone willing give it.
Seems like there have always been a plethra of documentation surrounding the Hamtramck cars. There were more made, more remaining, and they seem to have much more documentation to them in general such as build sheets etc.
We LA built car owners have less going for us, and I would like to find out more in general.
Lots of pics and info relating to inspection marks from the factory from front end to rear axle for Hamtrack cars, but are we to assume the colors, placement, and marks are the same on California cars?? If you have pics post them.
ECS systems were in place on the California cars in 1970, a year earlier than other mfg plants. And what other specific items and options were available exclusively to LA built cars?
Do you know what dealers LA cars went to? Is it correct to assume only the western part of the U.S.A.? I would like to hear any stories, or pics of dealer screw on or stick on IDs.
Anything in general about LA built cars and their documentations etc?
My RT/SE car was made in October of 1969 (NOE)serial#114### and there are decals on the windows where it spent years at Nellis Air Force base in Las Vegas Nevada. For at least 6 yrs it was owned by a person stationed there. As is usually the case, no build sheet.
Lets see what we can do to find out more about our LA built cars.
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Re: LA built cars, lets find out more, More info needed.
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ECS systems were in place on the California cars in 1970, a year earlier than other mfg plants. And what other specific items and options were available exclusively to LA built cars?
Not all LA built '70 cars have ECS. ECS was required for all cars to be registered in the state of California. All assembly plants built ECS vehicles. The only OPTIONs I can think of that were NOT available on LA built cars are HEMI & sunroof. LA built cars were SOLD NEW or built to order for dealerships as far east as Pennsylvannia & Mayland (but I would think all 50 states recieved new cars from LA). In '70 LA was the only plant to build 3 different body platforms (A, B & E-bodies).
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Re: LA built cars, lets find out more, More info needed.
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same here ....my car was built nov 69 U0E 114703... ..other car 9-1969 GOE 107828
___________________________________________________ Mine was NOE 114101 built in Oct. Has anyone found any markings on their LA cars?
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Re: LA built cars, lets find out more, More info needed.
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N95 meant Evaporative Emission Control (ECS) for the 1970 model year. N95 meant Nitrous Oxide Emissions Control for the 1971 model year. They are not the same. LA was a much smaller plant than Hamtramck, so they built fewer cars. They also had a 'no trash' policy, so paper items like broadcast sheets were to be pulled & tossed out. Not all of them were, so you still have to search all the normal places to know if you have one or more. Late in the 1970 model year all E-body orders were evidenty transfered to Hamtramck, this is why we see the occasional Western Sport Special Challenger from there when they were originally all supposed to be LA built cars. I have seen dealer invoices for LA cars delivered as far away as Wisconsin & Illinois. A fair amount of them were sent to southern states as far away as Texas & they shipped cars to Hawaii & Alaska as well. If anyone has any dealership invoices for 1970 LA cars, I would love to see scans or photocopies.
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Re: LA built cars, lets find out more, More info needed.
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My car is also LA built (dec 19) JS29N0E 127xxx. Unfortunately no evidence of buildsheet or any factory markings as car had the surface rust on the underbody.
I also have a JS29N0E survivor, with a very nice undercarriage. SPD was Dec 18, and I have searched in futility for a broadcast sheet as well. One of the more obvious differences I see in LA cars was the use of black dip primer instead of the usual gray. Here's a link to some detail pics of the markings on the 3.55 rear of this car. http://rogergibsonautorestoration.com/1970383Challenger_RD.htm
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Re: LA built cars, lets find out more, More info needed.
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I've heard that some of the LA sheet metal was supplied by a closer vendor, so there are some very minor differences in the ribbing on the floor pans, etc. This probably applies to vendors of other parts also. I think this is going to be a good thread! Tav
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Re: LA built cars, lets find out more, More info needed.
[Re: AutoEngineer]
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Intereting topic. My car is a N1E110333 LA built FC7 car. Most solid body I have ever had!
I will check the build date, but from memory it was in late September 1970. I thought mine did not have the emissions stuff but it did have turn downs and was a sales bank car. I will need to check my tag when I get home tonight.
I would love more info on the LA cars. In the early 80's my car was titled in CA and the holder was a guy in Portland. Weird!
'73 GK6 Challenger Rallye - 340 4-Speed
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