Re: Comp 324, .650 lift solid cams. Do you use,like'em?
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Yep loved mine, although my motor wasn't really what you'd put a cam that big into>
440SP stock block+.030", approx 9.8:1SCR stock 906 heads to start with Team G, 850DP, 2" f/wells 4.88's- 14x32 tyre L-bars/coil-overs A1 4800 verter best 11.23@118
added ported (258cfm) 906's 2.14/1.81, HS roller rockers best 10.7@125 this was with my '69 Cuda between 1989/1990
Cam ran great, no issues, ticked over at 900rpm really smooth, pulled like a train from around 4000>....I probably would've gone quicker with a cam with an earlier closing intake though for some more DCR/CP. Its definately a classic cam which worked but I would think there are cams that make more HP these days as in split pattern designs etc.
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1969 'Cuda 446ci, best 9.96@133.9 in 1990 1971 340 'Cuda, best 11.01@122.8 in 1987
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Re: Comp 324, .650 lift solid cams. Do you use,like'em?
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I have used that cam for decades It was designed to work with ported iron heads as there was nothing else at the time--the thing is is Really works with Indys and better heads The thing about that cam is WHERE it is installed at We always had best results installing at around 101 in a 440 CI and 105 in a 500 CI Now granted we always ran 1/8th mile for the most part but if it is retarded it does not show what it really has to offer It is THE base line combo for a 440 or 500 CI with Dash 1 Indys--just darn hard to beat and...you have NEVER been in a car that sounded better First one we ever fired up we switched off right away knowing we had plug wires mixed up--found out it just needed about 5000 RPM to "clear out" It is an amazing piece --you have to try one at least once The cam needs lots of spring pressure and Titanium retainers are a MUST--break it in....then up your spring pressure to at Least 150 seat the more the better It will pull the slober out of your mouth in second gear and high gear is a stunner first time you really lay the wood to it! The sound this cam makes all through the run is just simply stunning! WHERE it is degreed at makes all the difference--folks that did not like it had in in wrong--out of the box you may have to advance a LOT to get it to 101 or 105 even..leading you to think something is wrong but let me tell you what!!!!!! Don't quit running Mopars until you have experienced the beast sounding cam of all time Don't forget the compression more is better
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Re: Comp 324, .650 lift solid cams. Do you use,like'em?
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Hope no one minds bumping this older conversation.
If two cams have duration 324 and 305, and both lift 0.65, the second one seems more practical. ... But for solid tappets, has anyone tried and preferred the MM305 cam with an add'l 4-6 deg advance? Even if the rpm range came down only 10%, that would still be appreciated. I think the MM305 p/n 23-630-5 sweet spot is 5000-7500. For most of us, that's a bit high. I ran the Comp MM305 0.650"/0.630" cam for years in my 511 CID and loved it. The intake lobe is more aggressive then the old Comp 324 deg 0.650"/0.650" and I think it makes more torque and great horsepower. I ran it installed at 106 and also 109 and didn't notice much difference. I limited my shifts to ~7,200 rpm, mostly shifted at 7,000. 5,600 rpm stall converter and 13.5 CR.
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Re: Comp 324, .650 lift solid cams. Do you use,like'em?
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Hope no one minds bumping this older conversation.
If two cams have duration 324 and 305, and both lift 0.65, the second one seems more practical. ... But for solid tappets, has anyone tried and preferred the MM305 cam with an add'l 4-6 deg advance? Even if the rpm range came down only 10%, that would still be appreciated. I think the MM305 p/n 23-630-5 sweet spot is 5000-7500. For most of us, that's a bit high. I ran the Comp MM305 0.650"/0.630" cam for years in my 511 CID and loved it. The intake lobe is more aggressive then the old Comp 324 deg 0.650"/0.650" and I think it makes more torque and great horsepower. I ran it installed at 106 and also 109 and didn't notice much difference. I limited my shifts to ~7,200 rpm, mostly shifted at 7,000. 5,600 rpm stall converter and 13.5 CR. Jim I'm hoping to pick up a bit with that cam over the 324. I'm approx 12.5:1 shift at 6500 and have a 5800 stall.
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Re: Comp 324, .650 lift solid cams. Do you use,like'em?
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It's a big-a$$ old-school sft cam that runs a lot of lash (wasted lift and net duration). Sounds "Totally wicked!" at idle... but it's not the secret weapon cam IMO that some folks I know have claimed.
The last two people I know who ran it stuffed 'em into moderately hot 440s and ran 11.0s (in an A body) and 10.7s (in a more serious street/strip B body). Considering that I was running comparable -- or faster -- times with cams about 25 to 35 degrees at .050" smaller, their choice didn't make much sense to me. I agree with that, I probably would've run as fast if not faster with less duration especially with my mild 446SP under 10:1 motor. However, even at that low SCR, you can see that going from stock 906 heads (approx 215cfm?) to 258cfm 906's netted me nearly 6/10ths and 7mph, now if I had the money to get those heads seriously ported to say 290>300cfm whats to say I couldn't have run down to low 10's@130?.....and I was only using around 6500rpm....that cam worked very well, just wish I could've thrown more at it to see more of its true potential.
1969 'Cuda 446ci, best 9.96@133.9 in 1990 1971 340 'Cuda, best 11.01@122.8 in 1987
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Re: Comp 324, .650 lift solid cams. Do you use,like'em?
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did any of you guys run this on the street,if so how was the manners 290@.050 on the street... Why not just weld the valves open and save money on pushrods, springs, rockers, etc
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Re: Comp 324, .650 lift solid cams. Do you use,like'em?
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did any of you guys run this on the street,if so how was the manners 290@.050 on the street... Why not just weld the valves open and save money on pushrods, springs, rockers, etc I`m 276-281 on the street no issues at all and only 470 cubes...............
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Re: Comp 324, .650 lift solid cams. Do you use,like'em?
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did any of you guys run this on the street,if so how was the manners 290@.050 on the street... Why not just weld the valves open and save money on pushrods, springs, rockers, etc I`m 276-281 on the street no issues at all and only 470 cubes............... 276 is quite a bit more docile in a 470" than 290 would be....\ I guess it all depends on what your definition of "streetable" is, as Bill Clinton might have said First one we ever fired up we switched off right away knowing we had plug wires mixed up--found out it just needed about 5000 RPM to "clear out" I limited my shifts to ~7,200 rpm, mostly shifted at 7,000. 5,600 rpm stall converter and 13.5 CR. RPM range is 5000-7200 and it doesn't smooth out till 6000. You better have a steep converter. Doesn't sound like something I'd want to spend much street time in, unless your stoplights are 1/4 mile apart and you have friendly law enforcement! Listen to Andy, he has a lot of experience...
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Re: Comp 324, .650 lift solid cams. Do you use,like'em?
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did any of you guys run this on the street,if so how was the manners 290@.050 on the street... Why not just weld the valves open and save money on pushrods, springs, rockers, etc I`m 276-281 on the street no issues at all and only 470 cubes............... 276 is quite a bit more docile in a 470" than 290 would be....\ I guess it all depends on what your definition of "streetable" is, as Bill Clinton might have said First one we ever fired up we switched off right away knowing we had plug wires mixed up--found out it just needed about 5000 RPM to "clear out" I limited my shifts to ~7,200 rpm, mostly shifted at 7,000. 5,600 rpm stall converter and 13.5 CR. RPM range is 5000-7200 and it doesn't smooth out till 6000. You better have a steep converter. Doesn't sound like something I'd want to spend much street time in, unless your stoplights are 1/4 mile apart and you have friendly law enforcement! Listen to Andy, he has a lot of experience... 276-281 @ 470 cubes is a joy ride to say the least however till YOU drive one you can only speculate and Andy has knowledge for sure but mine again is on the street and track w/good results not in a dyno cell where the pulls usually start past the hardest carb tuning which is idle, transition and cruise. I will go much bigger next time around............
72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
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Re: Comp 324, .650 lift solid cams. Do you use,like'em?
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Hey, it's your car, overcam it any way you like! For the guy who asked, though, keep in mind that almost all street driving is done below 5000 rpm... 'course it'll sound really bad-ass though with all that lope...
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Re: Comp 324, .650 lift solid cams. Do you use,like'em?
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..keep in mind that almost all street driving is done below 5000 rpm... 'course it'll sound really bad-ass though with all that lope... Something alot of people seem to forget. Just like it' great to have heads that flow 400 cfm... but not when the velocity blelow .5 is like the mild breeze coming off a singer sewing machine at full boogie.
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Re: Comp 324, .650 lift solid cams. Do you use,like'em?
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Hey, it's your car, overcam it any way you like! For the guy who asked, though, keep in mind that almost all street driving is done below 5000 rpm... 'course it'll sound really bad-ass though with all that lope... Right now I`m undercammed............
72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
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Re: Comp 324, .650 lift solid cams. Do you use,like'em?
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My 514 engine makes about 850 hp with a cam that is only 266 at 050. So I'm not sure why I would need 24 more degrees of duration? Can we hear more about this combo and camshaft? I run that cam in my car with the minus 90hp crossram, it's bad a$$ 272/276 620 lift. should run in the 9's easy with a single plane and dommi
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Re: Comp 324, .650 lift solid cams. Do you use,like'em?
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Sounds like another candidate for Keith Dannuck to do a cam shoot out with. Get a "suitable" 500"-ish motor to try it in, and have a few others try and supply something that makes more power.
I've never used one in anything myself, so no personal experience with it.
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