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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
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12/09/10 09:33 AM
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If you did not have frost on the inside of the windows the morning after, you were not using the back seat right. 
I forgot how cold it gets where you are Barry.
I'd also bet a fair number of your dates were confused by one hand groping them, and the other hand searching the seat for a broadcast sheet. 
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
[Re: Sting Ya]
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12/09/10 10:42 PM
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Other than color & registration I see NO difference in the 3 Bees I posted above.  What am I missing??  Does anyone have a clear copy of the Challenger engineering drawing Dave posted a pic of? What info is in the "REVISION" section?I find it interesting that the Challenger drawing originated in March of '69 (5 months ahead of production), where as the Coronet drawing was drawn in November of '69 (3 months after production began). Who has / Where are the V60 drawings?
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
[Re: Sting Ya]
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12/09/10 10:48 PM
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Is it possible to tell if this ones original on my a 12 ?
No evidence has been presented that shows "BEEs" original to any 1969 cars.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
[Re: 6bblgt]
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12/10/10 12:18 AM
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What am I missing??
Hello Dan! I will posts some side by side comparisons just as soon as I locate the original A Body versions. They may or may not be different from either the E or B Body examples. The B Body guys are lucky because their versions were used for the "default" service replacement items. I guess someone made the decision that the small variations were not important enough (or cost too much) to offer as a replacement. It may not have been an intentional/deliberate effort to print the slight variations. It could have been an inadvertent color change by the plates used to print them or even a vendor thing!
Do most of you want the slight changes to choose from? I am close to buying over 300 of the NOS replacements for the B Bodies (3505100-1) if that is what the market wants. I would appreciate input from you guys since you are the ones we have the privilege to work for and serve! Give me your opinions and thoughts. Thanks. 
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
[Re: 1AARCUDA]
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12/10/10 07:57 AM
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Dave why would you buy 300 NOS ones ? Your company makes new ones, do you plan to offer new ones and/or NOS ones ?
CHECK OUT MY NEW WEB SITE !
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
[Re: anlauto]
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12/10/10 12:15 PM
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Dave why would you buy 300 NOS ones ? Your company makes new ones, do you plan to offer new ones and/or NOS ones ?
Hi Alan! Some might choose the NOS versions and others the reproductions. It is always a good thing to try and accommodate everyone's wishes whenever possible.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
[Re: 6bblgt]
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12/10/10 04:30 PM
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Other than color & registration I see NO difference in the 3 Bees I posted above.
What am I missing??
An example of one diff beyond colors: Look at the helmet stripe in the photo I posted.
one is black/white/red/black/white/red while the other is black/red/black/red/black.
I imagine that it is the law of diminishing returns to reproduce the minor diffs and IMHO unless you are looking for the diffs they are too close to notice.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
[Re: a12superbee]
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12/10/10 04:51 PM
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Or perhaps remove the NOS units from the market in order to drive UP the prices on the repops.
Nah, no one has ever done that before.
Well that is it! You figured it out! You just can't hide everything from the really smart folks!
......or, the place I am getting them from has no impact on the market because they are not being offered for sale to the public. If I don't buy every single one of the 300 left sides, then I can't obtain the twenty right sides he has in order to complete some matching pairs. Imagine that!?! I have to buy 280 left sides that will not have a matching right side just to get 20 complete sets! You are more than welcome to provide the additional $1500 it will take to buy them all since you seem know so much about by devious intentions!
(You should watch what you publicly accuse other people of contemplating! It does nothing more than reveal YOUR thought process and personality traits.)
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
[Re: 6bblgt]
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12/10/10 05:24 PM
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Thw "WHITE" you see in your original is either "bad registration" or "faded - loss of color".
A registration problem is evident (for white) on the outlines of the artwork and not in between lines of the main text. Since the "white" is a complete blanket background of the image, it is impossible to be absent due to a registration error. Only the outside border of the white would expose a registration problem for that particular color. On this decal, the white does not have image or artwork separations. The white is the last hue applied so it flows over the colored layers that have void spots or breaks in the artwork. It completely covers the bright vivid colors that are used in the decal. All reverse printing is done this way. Also notice the white lines in the tires that are missing in the NOS version. There are quite a few others variations I will post as soon as I obtain the other version.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
[Re: a12superbee]
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12/10/10 05:29 PM
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Dave why would you buy 300 NOS ones ? Your company makes new ones, do you plan to offer new ones and/or NOS ones ?
Hi Alan! Some might choose the NOS versions and others the reproductions. It is always a good thing to try and accommodate everyone's wishes whenever possible.
Or perhaps remove the NOS units from the market in order to drive UP the prices on the repops.
Nah, no one has ever done that before.
have you ever bought anything from dave?
have you ever checked out any of his prices on the items he does sell?
if you have youll know that NONE of his prices can be considered high.
if you dont believe me go ahead and compare the items he sells to others, his will be lower or on par AND we havent even discussed quality and correctness, which ECSs products arent equaled for quality
the govt should feel lucky dave isnt in the money forging business, as im sure he would get that correct too.
im not here back slapping dave just cause hes a friend, but as a consumer of his products who has used his stuff before.
if you think he is trying to drive prices up or make an extra buck think about the transfers he makes that some use on things like vin tags, (hope i worded that right)
it used to be a nightmare to get that transfer,
it couldnt be easier, cheaper or more correct than ECS makes it to get one
the mopar market is a small niche hobby based market for dave (he supplies new car manufactorers with their decals if that helps put it in perspective)
and as crazy as it sounds id bet hes probably more in the mopar resto decals as a challenge than a money maker
lets just be thankful that daves puts the effort into making and suppling the items he does correctly for our cars, and not make accusations unless you have seen him prior do anything to "drive up" prices on his wares
thank you
tony
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Maybe you could get more of them from him?
