Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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My 1971 Challenger R/T does not have the Side window Scat Bees . Like another poster stated in an earlies post Stripe delete cars do not get the stickers. I do not know if this is true or not about Stripe delete 1971 Challenger R/Ts. I parted out an R/T Challenger and still have the side windows with its sticker on it.
My 71 stripe delete Challenger R/T does not have them either - but I think that is a coincidence...
Mine neither....and mine is a stripe delete. And I am 100% certain they werent't on there when the car was delivered to the original owner.
Do we have a pattern here??
Jim, what are the details on your'71. Is it a 6 pack with a hole in the roof??
MB
Nope - It has 8 holes on the intake and the only hole near the roof is in the owners head!
Black, stick - original paint.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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I would expand that statement to '70 ONLY!! except for "J" Challenger maybe?? Anyone ever see a '71 Charger or Demon with originals? '70-'71 Parts Catalog shows: 23-63-134 DECAL, Qtr. Wdo. Glass Scat Pack Insignia (J) - (W '70) - (L '70)
The '70-'71 Parts Catalog also shown one pair of part numbers 3505 100 & 3505 101 - I thought there were 3 pairs (1 each for A, B, & E-bodies with the corner cut to match the roofline of the 1/4 window to aid installation). What does the '70 ONLY Catalog show?
I have not seen a '69 Daytona with Bees in the 1/4 window & they were the last of the '69s to make it to the dealerships. & they also made the '70 Scat Pack brochure.
There has been some discussion in the past that "stripe DELETE" cars recieved NO Bees, but until someone comes up with an engineering drawing showing and/or explaining the application instruction "the original FACTORY intention" as to which cars recieved Bees will be in question. They were simple & inexpensive to add or remove 40 years ago or today.
I just looked at an original but nasty 71 Super Bee yesterday and noticed it had the bees on both windows...they were closer to top though on this cars 1/4 windows. This was only reason I noticed them thinking wow those are high. Original unrestored car though. Added?
Frank Badalson had a really low mile car where the Bees were applied like....just good old sloppy work!
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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My 70 Challenger had them. I was told it was a 70 only thing. It was about the only orginal thing I didn't have to fix or replace.
Question, did this come from the factory or were they put on at the dearship?
The factory
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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Also, this is the best pic I have, but I don't think my former LA built A66 car had either the Bees or the airtemp decal. It was a very original / unmolested and mostly original paint car when I bought it
Carpeted door panels Tuff wheel Chrome on parking brake pedal
from one pic ..... I'm just sayin'
My old FJ6 T/A with Houndstooth interior and rear seat ashtrays had the SE style door panels...I always wondered what triggered that? I think the Cloth and Vinyl got you those door panels etc.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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Also, this is the best pic I have, but I don't think my former LA built A66 car had either the Bees or the airtemp decal. It was a very original / unmolested and mostly original paint car when I bought it
Carpeted door panels Tuff wheel Chrome on parking brake pedal
from one pic ..... I'm just sayin'
My old FJ6 T/A with Houndstooth interior and rear seat ashtrays had the SE style door panels...I always wondered what triggered that? I think the Cloth and Vinyl got you those door panels etc.
Yes, a cloth & vinyl or leather interior on a non-SE would get you upgraded door panels.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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something to add to the mix.. my uncle has a very unrestored 72 340 demon with only 40,000 miles on it. that car has the scat pack bee in the 1/4 window. im pretty much %100 certain they are original. not sure on the SBD though.. Also, on dads 70 charger r/t a/c car, that had the scat pack bee and the airtemp decal.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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Carpeted door panels Tuff wheel Chrome on parking brake pedal power windows, black vinyl top, black bumblebee stripe & SE finish panel from additional pics in the LA thread .....
from one pic ..... I'm just sayin'
ALL added,,,,by me . can you tell,,,,,,,,I REALLY like options
When I bought the car, it was mostly original but worn paint. rust free external sheetmetal. ( trunk floor was full of pin holes ) All original interior and BLACK vinyl top. Engine and trans I believe had never been out of the car.When I sold the car. I had replaced only the back rest portion of the pass seat cover, headliner and carpet
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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A lot of those 8 Barrel E bodies in 1971 had stripe deletes. Goes for Cudas and Challengers. I will have to look into my information and see what kind of percentages I have on that stuff.
I have known of the 1971 Challenger I own for a very long long time.Owned the car since the late seventies. I know the original owner. I can never remember the car ever having the Bees on the Quarter glass, car has never been restored and always has been a drag car. So if this is true of 3 1971 Challengers with stripe delete,that do not have Bees on the quarter glass, it sure sounds like the two go together. Funny thing the 3 cars we are talking about are all 1971 Hemi Challengers. I guess people just did not like the stripes offered in 1971, Bill Board included.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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Here is a picture of the car in front of the original dealership in Toronto(Rexdale) Ontario, Canada. Car is a Shaker car. I am not sure about Jims car.The Car has had the same paint scheme on it since the fall of 1972.Low milage Drag Car most of its life.
1971 HEMI E BODY REGISTRY
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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My '70 N96 383 Bee post car had 1 on the driver side. I was the third owner in '76.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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I don't know if the A66 cars were considered part of the scat pack? I had a couple 70 340 Challs back in the seventies and they did not have the bees on the window. An interesting note, I remember taking the carpets out of my T/A back in 1979 and finding the bee decal backings underneath the carpet, thrown their by the line workers back in 1970. Cool.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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Yes, A66 challenger had this Scat pack decal.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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Here is a picture of the car in front of the original dealership in Toronto(Rexdale) Ontario, Canada. Car is a Shaker car. I am not sure about Jims car.The Car has had the same paint scheme on it since the fall of 1972.Low milage Drag Car most of its life.
Freddies old car! Love it! I bought a lot of parts at that dealership in the 70's and 80's.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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Sorry to veer off the track a bit....
Kevin/Jim
I am assuming that your cars are rallye hood equipped. Do either of your cars have any R/T id on the hood?
MB
Nope - No R/T on my hood - Rallye.
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