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Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #867799
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6pac,
PRECISELY why we did this. We realize that there is no way that you guys are cutting the floor on an original A12 car or any other original car for that matter to put a Tremec in it.





and I'm stoked! I had planned on a PASSON 4 speed OD but now my Duster will be getting one of these for sure!




with Jamie and Scott!
Some of us already have the 4 speed OD from Passon Performance. It might be time to do the 5 speed thing though...

Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #867800
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6pac,
PRECISELY why we did this. We realize that there is no way that you guys are cutting the floor on an original A12 car or any other original car for that matter to put a Tremec in it.





and I'm stoked! I had planned on a PASSON 4 speed OD but now my Duster will be getting one of these for sure!




x 3! We need to do a remake of the old Aerosmith song

Jamies got a gun.
the other OD's are DONE!

Dang...now I'm gonna walk around all day with that song in my head. Somebody that's a little more Weird Al than me can finish it.

Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: JDMopar] #867801
12/03/10 11:36 AM
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I already finished it in my head. But I don't want to "offend" anyone on the board. So, I will just keep it to myself.


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Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: JamiePasson] #867802
12/03/10 11:53 AM
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Is there going to be an application listed for the F-body and M-body crowd too? We like 5 speeds as much as the next guy.

Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: 77aspenRT] #867803
12/03/10 11:58 AM
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Is there going to be an application listed for the F-body and M-body crowd too? We like 5 speeds as much as the next guy.


that would use the same trans as an A-body

Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: 77aspenRT] #867804
12/03/10 12:18 PM
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As 446 just said, F Body is the same as A Body. I am not really sure that we can swing making a 5 speed for a diplomat. We would probably sell 4 of them. At some point, we gotta draw the line.


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Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: JamiePasson] #867805
12/03/10 01:22 PM
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As 446 just said, F Body is the same as A Body. I am not really sure that we can swing making a 5 speed for a diplomat. We would probably sell 4 of them. At some point, we gotta draw the line.




F bodies used A body length A833OD's, so just market the A body as an A/F/J/M trans (:


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1986 Silver/Twilight Blue Chrysler 5th Ave HotRod **SOLD!***
2011 Toxic Orange Dodge Charger R/T
2017 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: JamiePasson] #867806
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...There are tapered rollers throughout the trans. Input shaft, mainshaft and cluster gear front and rear. Gear Ratios are 2.64/1.92/1.40/1.00/.70 Weight is 105 lbs




Jamie,
Thanks for getting this to production, this rulz!!! How do we get on the short list to order one (an A-body version)? Please post the torque capacity and approximate pricing info as soon as you can. Time to start digging through the couch and skimming the kids' piggybanks to add to the project car 5spd slushfund!

Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: bbvaliant] #867807
12/03/10 02:45 PM
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Jamie, question for you. I will definately be purchasing one of these and probably two, (1 for superbird, 1 for challenger)but curious about the clutch set-up. Are you going to offer a hydraulic system with bellhousing or do I have to use all the mechanical likage? The challenger is an auto now but I am converting it over to a manual. It would make it so much easier not to have to weld a bracket on the frame and get all the z-bar stuff too. Plus a hydraulic would take up less space. Your thoughts?


When I die I want to go like my Grandfather did, quietly in his sleep. Not screaming like the passengers in his car.
Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: efisixpack] #867808
12/03/10 03:17 PM
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efi, not to speak for Jamie, but whatever you can buy for an 18-spline now will work with the new trans. To me, that's what makes this such a great product.

I had already talked to my son about the 18-spline overdrive that Jamie was already selling to replace the A-body 18-spline that I built for his car. This is even better, although a mild 440 with 3.23 gears in an a-body hardly needs that many forward gears..........

He may be in the market for one in the next couple of years, but I don't think I'll have another four speed car. My Barracuda is getting a 727 behind the 440 so that my wife can drive it and it is SOOOOOOOOOO much cheaper.

Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: Jim_Lusk] #867809
12/03/10 08:07 PM
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I'm also interested in the A-body version... Cant wait to see what the price is.
I may or may not be able to swing it. Just have to wait and see.

Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: MileHighDart] #867810
12/03/10 08:49 PM
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Whoa! (rubbing eyes) Am I dreaming??? This is so cool. I had no idea Jamie was working on anything like this!

So Jamie, answer PLEASE? Are you going to compete on pricing with the K-word 5 speed conversion package deal or will it likely be more because it is truly a direct fit? Seems like with all the goodies you have to buy to fit a k-word, it gives you some wiggle room on pricing.

No offense to Mr. K. I just want to keep this from being a bashfest.

A cool thing here is that I am collecting parts to swap to an A833 now. I can continue to do this knowing that at some point I can do a simple swap to the Passon 5 speed. Wow.

Are the tailshafts all new or are you using factory stuff?

How soon is Rick Ehrenberg getting a hold of one?


I’m listening.
Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: ThermoQuad] #867811
12/03/10 10:06 PM
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Who do you think might be torture testing it?...I can't wait



I think a ten second B-body would be a perfect torture test I could have it in my car within 2 hours and burning rubber
But it won't be until spring for some true 1/4 mile testing
So a west coast or southern track test will be in order.
Gus


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Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: fourgearsavoy] #867812
12/04/10 09:29 AM
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I didn't even know this was in the works.
The masses have been waiting for a direct bolt in 5-speed set-up for a long time and in about the same time frame it looks like we'll have two great choices, one from Passon and one from McLeod!
I can't wait to see final specs and pricing.
These transmissions will help ensure these old polluters remain on the road well into the future.


1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10)

1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)

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Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: JamiePasson] #867813
12/04/10 09:35 AM
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As 446 just said, F Body is the same as A Body.




I'd love to have one for the Dart I'm building in the spring and your local enough I can drive out and pick one up! SWEET!

Heck, I could drive out with the 4-speed and drive home with a 5-gear =)

Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: daniel_depetro] #867814
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I didn't even know this was in the works.
The masses have been waiting for a direct bolt in 5-speed set-up for a long time and in about the same time frame it looks like we'll have two great choices, one from Passon and one from McLeod!
I can't wait to see final specs and pricing.
These transmissions will help ensure these old polluters remain on the road well into the future.




The pictures I have seen of the McLeod do not lead me to believe it will be a direct bolt in like the Passon , plus it's a RACE box meaning I don't think it has syncros , not going to be street friendly .

Here is the Chrysler Box for an E body , That shifter rail that goes forward is right where the T bar Xmeber would be .

6336830-mcleod1.jpg (333 downloads)
Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: JamiePasson] #867815
12/04/10 10:03 AM
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Good Luck with the new product.

MB

Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: daniel_depetro] #867816
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I didn't even know this was in the works.
The masses have been waiting for a direct bolt in 5-speed set-up for a long time and in about the same time frame it looks like we'll have two great choices, one from Passon and one from McLeod!
I can't wait to see final specs and pricing.
These transmissions will help ensure these old polluters remain on the road well into the future.



The Passon unit is built in AMERICA and the Mcleod unit is built,lets say overseas
Gus

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Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: daniel_depetro] #867817
12/04/10 12:25 PM
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These transmissions will help ensure these old polluters remain on the road well into the future.




That's a real interesting way of putting it.

Old polluters indeed.


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They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
Don't be the exception.
Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: Supercuda] #867818
12/04/10 05:36 PM
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McLeod M-800

Mcleod/Paul Lee interview video


I didn't realize the M-800 wasn't going to have synchros?!?

The little bit I've seen online about this transmission was that it was suppose to be a "direct fit", as in not having to modify the cars panels to get it to work.


1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10)

1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)

1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)
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