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Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: JohnRR] #867819
12/04/10 06:37 PM
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The little bit I've seen online about this transmission was that it was suppose to be a "direct fit", as in not having to modify the cars panels to get it to work.




Look above at what JohnRR said, he's right, there looks to be an obvious interferance area unless something fairly significant changes. Besides, with Jamies trans you've got Jamie to deal with direct, not some no name saleman for a big company, not to mention Jamie's looks more original and will probably be stronger. No brainer decision IMO.

Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #867820
12/04/10 07:42 PM
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Do you have a list for people that want to reserve one? I'm going to want a B body unit.


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Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: badblack68] #867821
12/05/10 07:36 AM
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I guess time will tell. I am not disagreeing, however if it's being marketed as a direct fit / no modification necessary piece, I would have thought they'd install it in a few different cars of each chassis to double check.
I doubt I'll afford either one, but it sure is nice they will be available.
After they are tried and proven a bit I'll likely sell off some of my extra stuff and get one (maybe two?). The thought of 4.30:1 rear gears and still being able to cruise down the highway sure is mouth watering.


1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10)

1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)

1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)
Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: daniel_depetro] #867822
12/05/10 10:26 AM
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I guess time will tell. I am not disagreeing, however if it's being marketed as a direct fit / no modification necessary piece, I would have thought they'd install it in a few different cars of each chassis to double check.
I doubt I'll afford either one, but it sure is nice they will be available.
After they are tried and proven a bit I'll likely sell off some of my extra stuff and get one (maybe two?). The thought of 4.30:1 rear gears and still being able to cruise down the highway sure is mouth watering.




So was a certian other companies 5 speed swap , we saw how that turned out in more than one case.

Sorry Gene ...

Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: JohnRR] #867823
12/05/10 10:44 AM
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Manitoba Canada
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I guess time will tell. I am not disagreeing, however if it's being marketed as a direct fit / no modification necessary piece, I would have thought they'd install it in a few different cars of each chassis to double check.
I doubt I'll afford either one, but it sure is nice they will be available.
After they are tried and proven a bit I'll likely sell off some of my extra stuff and get one (maybe two?). The thought of 4.30:1 rear gears and still being able to cruise down the highway sure is mouth watering.




So was a certian other companies 5 speed swap , we saw how that turned out in more than one case.

Sorry Gene ...




Those other guys are also coming out with a new 5 speed that's made in house, I think it's called an RS 600.


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Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: daniel_depetro] #867824
12/05/10 11:25 AM
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This new transmission takes these old cars to a whole new level.

There should be no doubt as to the DIRECT fit and finish of this product.

It should take about 2 hours if you have an 18 spline in the car already. Do that with a tremec or some other illegitimate variant

If you don't know by now...I am very picky of what hardware I put on my car as it goes very fast on the roadcourse.[55 - 130 mph] Speed will hurt or worse kill you if you are not respectful of it. A bad transmission will spin you faster than you can imagine-I rode out a spinout thru the "bus stop or inner loop" at Watkins Glen in a 66 mustang track car [race car] who trans failed at about 110 mph. I was the willing passenger...I have to have hardware I can trust so I can survive my yearly driving experience.

I do annual drag strip runs as well to check mph and hard straight-line performance. Tire spins and everything. 12.20-12.80 @113 mph, 3450 lbs with driver

I currently have an Passon Aluminum over drive 4 speed in my pos and it has worked...flawlessy. Before the OD 4sp I had a Passon aluminum 2.66 1st gear 4 speed. Before that I had a Passon iron case 2.66 1st gear 4sp.

Before Jamie Passon I had 4 speeds that made noise and vibrated the shifter handle and car. I am now closing in on a 100,000 miles of 4 speeds...now all I get is a big smile.

We are talking a lot of regular miles on all of these transmissions and a whole bunch of laps at the "glen". If a more detailed endorsement is required I have on record [log book] of how many miles of road & track the Passon products have seen. Of course the info will cost money as not everything is free including transmissions from Jamie.

I await the next generation transmission from Jamie like a kid on christmas eve.

Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: 67autocross] #867825
12/05/10 11:40 AM
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Those other guys are also coming out with a new 5 speed that's made in house, I think it's called an RS 600.



So hopefully we will have hopefully 3 to choose from!


1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10)

1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)

1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)
Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #867826
12/05/10 01:08 PM
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Hello...will you have everything to install the 5-speed into a 71-74 B-body with a bench seat?
Do you use a different shaped Dog Bone or the original dog bone bracket to locate the shifter correctly?
Thanks!...

Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: GLR] #867827
12/05/10 04:19 PM
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all i want to know is, when exactly, can we get our hands on one? if theese work out well, i'm in for four of them.

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Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: Old School] #867828
12/05/10 07:06 PM
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Well now that the thread is over here lets put a price on it
Do you take Richmond 5-speeds in on trade
Gus


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Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: fourgearsavoy] #867829
12/05/10 07:25 PM
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Do they make 18spline clutches that fit behind a slant??


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Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: fourgearsavoy] #867830
12/05/10 08:59 PM
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We have not hashed out the late B body mount and linkage yet. As for cost, I am going to make you wait a bit longer. I am not jerking you guys around, but I have a production meeting tomorrow and we should have the final costs for all components. I can then set a retail price. We are leaving for the PRI show Tuesday. I may need to see if someone reasonably local wants to be a ginea pig for bench seat 71-4 B linkage mockup... Any takers? You would need an enclosed trailer likely because it will be a winter thing.
Jamie


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Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: JamiePasson] #867831
12/05/10 09:10 PM
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I'm very curious to see the actual costs.


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1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)

1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)
Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: daniel_depetro] #867832
12/06/10 10:19 AM
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All I can say is that unless McLeod make some SIGNIFICANT changes, I can't see how it is gonna be a bolt in piece. I am not saying anything bad about it. It is a nice looking trans, but I am not sure that two different tails will fit ALL GM cars, ALL Ford Cars and ALL Chrysler cars. I am just stating that the measurements that I took don't seem to measure up to fitting with no mods.
We will see though.
Jamie


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5 speed pricing info [Re: JamiePasson] #867833
12/06/10 08:51 PM
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O.K.,
Some pricing information. After MUCH back and forth, figuring, refiguring and trying to trim where we could without sacrificing quality, we are looking at $4295.00 for a retail price on the unit.

Now, I want to explain a little about this. This cost will cover the transmission, shifter, shifter linkage, mount plate and speedometer cable extension. This is all that is needed. Any other parts if you are switching an auto car, we can provide, but they are not needed, so therefore we didn't include them.

Please keep in mind that this unit is Made in USA. It was designed here, and is being built here by mopar people that are deicated to bringing you the highest quality parts possible. It is without doubt a premium driveline piece. All gears and shafts are made from aircraft quality 9310 alloy steel. Unfortunately, this costs money. Believe me, We are being as fair as we can on this, considering this will bolt in as it is supposed to and you are not going to have to cut your car up.

I await any further questions.
Thanks,
Jamie


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Re: 5 speed pricing info [Re: JamiePasson] #867834
12/06/10 09:20 PM
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That is a fair price. If I didn't already have a 5 speed I would pay the extra $$ for this trans. I bet you will sell quite a few.

Re: 5 speed pricing info [Re: RTSE4ME] #867835
12/06/10 09:47 PM
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I dont think that pricing is out of line for what you are selling. For a transmission that has been designed for use in our old chrysler products with shifter and all of the extra needed parts I call it a deal! When will you be taking orders on this great new product?

Re: 5 speed pricing info [Re: SCATPK] #867836
12/06/10 09:50 PM
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sounds fair to me too..now, when can i get one to try?


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70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
Re: 5 speed pricing info [Re: SCATPK] #867837
12/06/10 09:51 PM
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Hi i was wondering what the gear ratios will be are the same as the HEMI trans ratio wise? Are they close or wide ratio are there going to options ?
Sorry if this is off the main topic . CJ

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Re: 5 speed pricing info [Re: SCATPK] #867838
12/06/10 09:58 PM
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$4295,a good deal.LOL,boy some of you guys must have a fat pocket.I dont care if its made in Maine,Spaine or Spokane and made out of the same material that the Transformers are made out of,by Union Workers,its priced too high.

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