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Making a Windage Tray out of Aluminum-What do you think #85619
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I saw a ad for a Aluminum Windage Tray for a Mopar stroker Big Block by a company named Pro Aluminum Products.

http://proaluminumproducts.com

What do you think? Pros and Cons of making a windage tray out of aluminum compared to steel??? Thanks for any input.
AL

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Re: Aluminum BB Stroker Windage Tray. What do you think? [Re: moparAL] #85620
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They/he, Whoever?, ( no address on website) is a patent thief that get by the law because they make cheap, unsafe, knockoff products out of aluminum instead of steel. http://www.deluxealuminumproducts.com/servlet/the-15/new-aluminum-b-dsh-body-drive/Detail Look at all the crap they copy from others! Our board sponsor John Pasemann designed his driveshaft loop first, (then they copied), out of steel which is the only one of the two that is NHRA safe. http://www.uscartool.com/

Re: Aluminum BB Stroker Windage Tray. What do you think? [Re: earlybee] #85621
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LOL ... this deluxe can not even spell ....

New Aluminum B Body Driveshaft Saftey Loop

An alum D S loop ? ... you can make hood pins, an intake manifold or a wheel out of that stuff but a SAFETY item like this? .. There is no way that something like this would pass TECH.

I would not trust a steel D S to even contact it ... much less spin on the inside of that at 4-6k rpms !

Re: Aluminum BB Stroker Windage Tray. What do you think? [Re: dOc !] #85622
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Thanks for sharing on what you think about Aluminum drive shaft safty loops and coping a persons products. But my question was about a aluminum windage tray? Is it a stupid or good idea?????? Any opinions???

Re: Aluminum BB Stroker Windage Tray. What do you think [Re: moparAL] #85623
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But my question was about a aluminum windage tray? Is it a stupid or good idea?????? Any opinions???




why wouldn't it be , it only there to STOP the crank windage


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Re: Aluminum BB Stroker Windage Tray. What do you think [Re: JohnRR] #85624
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Thanks Johnrr,

I changed my original question to my real thought. What do think about a windage tray made out of aluminum compared to being made out of steel for this application???

Re: Aluminum BB Stroker Windage Tray. What do you think [Re: moparAL] #85625
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Nothing wrong with the material itself.

Re: Aluminum BB Stroker Windage Tray. What do you think? [Re: moparAL] #85626
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Quote:

I saw a ad for a Aluminum Windage Tray for a Mopar stroker Big Block by a company named Pro Aluminum Products.

http://proaluminumproducts.com

What do you think? Pros and Cons? Thanks for any input.
AL


I see you edited your post from last night to make my opinion of the company seem O/T today. So I,ll edit mine too, Thats the greatest tray ever made because they said it won,t rust and its only $10.00 more than steel!

Re: Aluminum BB Stroker Windage Tray. What do you think [Re: JohnRR] #85627
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But my question was about a aluminum windage tray? Is it a stupid or good idea?????? Any opinions???




why wouldn't it be , it only there to STOP the crank windage




OK ...directly ON-topic ....

It depends on how thick the material is. If it is some thin stuff(like some of the China-mart parts) - it could bend, then get tangled-up in the crank and then wipe-out the motor.

Something like this ... I would use the steel piece.

Re: Aluminum BB Stroker Windage Tray. What do you think [Re: dOc !] #85628
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If you think you have a better design in mind than the MP piece or the Milodon piece then go for it.
If you're trying to save weight, it's not that significant.
If you're trying to save money, it's your time and sweat.
Be careful of the thickness of the aluminum. If it's too thin it might crush,warp,deform at the flange when you try to snug up the oil pan bolts.
FWIW, the price of the aluminum one seems to be more expensive than the MP or Milodon. In that case, I will stick with steel. Plus the MP one includes 2 oil pan gaskets.

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Re: Aluminum BB Stroker Windage Tray. What do you think [Re: 66Dodge] #85629
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Unless someone chimes in that is USING one, your just getting a bunch of from people looking at the same pics you are

If you wanna be the guinea pig, which is what you will be it sounds like. Let us know what you find out.

I have and do run the MP and Milodon trays without issue. I'll recommend them, and continue to use them.


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Re: Aluminum BB Stroker Windage Tray. What do you think [Re: R70RUNNER] #85630
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BUTTTTTT ... you don't need to actually pour a cup of sand into your motor to KNOW that it is not good for it. Stick with a steel part !!

Re: Aluminum BB Stroker Windage Tray. What do you think [Re: dOc !] #85631
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I think if you bought it and you installed it and it wasn't warped and it didn't interfere with anything then i don't see a problem. All it does is keep the oil from splashing up.

Re: Aluminum BB Stroker Windage Tray. What do you think [Re: ryan053] #85632
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I think if you bought it and you installed it and it wasn't warped and it didn't interfere with anything then i don't see a problem. All it does is keep the oil from splashing up.




Why would you bother? where's the advantage?

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Re: Aluminum BB Stroker Windage Tray. What do you think [Re: DPelletier] #85633
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the advantage would be the 22.6 gram weight difference which could propel you to the top!!!!

Re: Making a Windage Tray out of Aluminum-What do you t [Re: moparAL] #85634
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I wouldn't do it. In addition to the possible problems already noted I'll add this. Aluminum fatigues differently than steel. There's a reason the FAA has such stringent inspection & material standards for the aircraft industry. A piece of aluminum made from the right alloy of .125 minimum thickness without long free standing edges would probably work, but if it did fail the results wouldn't likely be very pretty. I wouldn't have any problem using aluminum plate for baffles in the cam valley as long as they were secured along all the edges so vibration couldn't cause a fatigue failure along one of the edges.







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