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Re: W.A.R.P performance Tube Front end Anyone have one? [Re: chryco] #847147 11/07/10 01:59 PM 11/07/10 01:59 PM
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bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Alterkation here. great piece put it in and forget about it. I drive mine on the street as well as race it. BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: W.A.R.P performance Tube Front end Anyone have one? [Re: chryco] #847148 11/07/10 07:42 PM 11/07/10 07:42 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY HEMIFRED master
HEMIFRED master Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY	Quote: MagForce for me......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsmLj-Z44mo I have one one my Cuda. There i a good example of race vs. street. In my opinion for racing it is overdone. There's no reason to convert the lower A arm into one using three attachment points. It winds up with spindles that must weigh twice of a stock unit,The tubing is too thick and there's just too much of it.Also the lack of any stops upper or lower puzzles me. I have to manufacture something on mine to limit the travel. With sstops they would just need some changes to pads. I am not passing judgement on it as an all around unit or for the street. . home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster

Re: W.A.R.P performance Tube Front end Anyone have one? [Re: atoetly] #847149 11/08/10 10:24 PM 11/08/10 10:24 PM
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9second_bottle OP member 9 Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 24 Iowa	Quote: I'm running one and now that its adjusted right works great! Could you please list what the problems were? I like the looks of this front end but does not seem to be many of them out there. 66 Coronet 3720lbs. 9.80 @ 138mph on a bottle

Re: W.A.R.P performance Tube Front end Anyone have one? [Re: HEMIFRED] #847150 11/08/10 10:39 PM 11/08/10 10:39 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,330 Lynchburg, VA Leon441 master
Leon441 master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,330 Lynchburg, VA	raising the rear mounting point of the upper control arm seems to work greatwhen the strut rod is made up level at ride height. At proper ride height a mopar torsion front end has the front mounting of the strut rod higher than the mounting to the lower control arm. As the spindle travels into the fender the caster stays the same. It is not until you screw with ride height or jack the rear of the car this becomes a problem. But, rules in most street classes state that the geometry must remain stock. Well that would techniqly blow that rule. Swapping the lower ball joint steering arms is not a good way to convert to a rack. The steering arm needs to connect to the tie rod very close to the wheel to have a correct ackerman angle. This way the proper tire makes the sharper turn when turning. Ole mopars were rear steer and had the arm bent inward not outward as it needs to be for a front steer. You can bend them but there are better products out there. One way to notice a botched front end job is when the tires turn in while backing up. Bob pretty much showed the Mopar world he has the stuff when he had a video of the front suspension driving down the road. I have a great working front suspension but if I were going to buy one BOBSPROFAB is where I would go. Leon Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.

Re: W.A.R.P performance Tube Front end Anyone have one? [Re: Leon441] #847151 11/09/10 12:18 AM 11/09/10 12:18 AM
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j.mcconnell mopar J Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 485 Raleigh, NC	just a little more info from an email i sent Quote: yes the K-member i do is something i do regularly but does not use factory lower control arms or torsion bars it is a coilover conversion to eliminate the torsion bars. it saves about 45lbs off the front of the car. The k-member and lower control arms is $949 you will also need tubular upper control arms to clear the new coilovers i sell them for an additional $400 which includes new ball joints. everything is tig welded and built from 4130 chromoly. thank you, Justin Kill www.OverkillRaceCars.com full line chassis shop in Loveland, CO (970)-581-8134 http://www.streetlegaltv.com/forum/overkill-race-cars-puts-slick-k-5374.html

Re: W.A.R.P performance Tube Front end Anyone have one? [Re: j.mcconnell] #847152 11/09/10 01:48 AM 11/09/10 01:48 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,418 Mcallen, TX SB449VALIANT pro stock
SB449VALIANT pro stock Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,418 Mcallen, TX	here is mine... BOBPROFAB 6292530-DSC00772.JPG (59 downloads)

Re: W.A.R.P performance Tube Front end Anyone have one? [Re: 9second_bottle] #847153 11/09/10 08:53 PM 11/09/10 08:53 PM
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QWK_ENUF top fuel Q Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,442 LOWELL IN	h0me made front end 6293672-4.JPG (85 downloads) Last edited by QWK_ENUF; 11/09/10 08:55 PM. WAXER

Re: W.A.R.P performance Tube Front end Anyone have one? [Re: 9second_bottle] #847154 11/10/10 07:24 AM 11/10/10 07:24 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,699 Newport, Mi Evil Spirit master
Evil Spirit master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,699 Newport, Mi	I'm not an engineer, but I don't care for any of the aftermarket K's that only use a single crossbar. IMO it doesn't give enough support to keep the frame rails from twisting. Now granted, most race cars can get this support back by running tubes from the firewall to the ends of the frame rails - which adds some of the weight saved back, and higher up than it was before. Not every car adds these bars, and many aren't correctly designed or installed to support the ends of the rails both up-down and side to side. I'm not bashing any ones product; this is my opinion and why I don't like the single crossbar K's. Free advice and worth every penny... Factory trained Slinky rewinder.........

Re: W.A.R.P performance Tube Front end Anyone have one? [Re: Evil Spirit] #847155 11/10/10 07:29 AM 11/10/10 07:29 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY HEMIFRED master
HEMIFRED master Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY	Quote: I'm not an engineer, but I don't care for any of the aftermarket K's that only use a single crossbar. IMO it doesn't give enough support to keep the frame rails from twisting. Now granted, most race cars can get this support back by running tubes from the firewall to the ends of the frame rails - which adds some of the weight saved back, and higher up than it was before. Not every car adds these bars, and many aren't correctly designed or installed to support the ends of the rails both up-down and side to side. I'm not bashing any ones product; this is my opinion and why I don't like the single crossbar K's. your fears are negated by the use of good motorplates home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster

Re: W.A.R.P performance Tube Front end Anyone have one? [Re: HEMIFRED] #847156 11/10/10 07:44 AM 11/10/10 07:44 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,699 Newport, Mi Evil Spirit master
Evil Spirit master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,699 Newport, Mi	Quote: Quote: I'm not an engineer, but I don't care for any of the aftermarket K's that only use a single crossbar. IMO it doesn't give enough support to keep the frame rails from twisting. Now granted, most race cars can get this support back by running tubes from the firewall to the ends of the frame rails - which adds some of the weight saved back, and higher up than it was before. Not every car adds these bars, and many aren't correctly designed or installed to support the ends of the rails both up-down and side to side. I'm not bashing any ones product; this is my opinion and why I don't like the single crossbar K's. your fears are negated by the use of good motorplates Again, adding weight back higher in the car, and requiring more engineering to install properly. Free advice and worth every penny... Factory trained Slinky rewinder.........

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