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Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? #843747
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Well Christmas is coming and I sure could use a fresh new set of " H " wheels any recent news ? Is this project still a GO or dead in the water ?
An update would be nice .

Later, BUZZ

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? [Re: buzz440] #843748
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I'd be interested!


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The project is dead in the water, due to the economic slow down. The market for hundreds of sets required for manufacturing efficiencies of scale and affordable pricing is not there presently.

Lots of people say they're interested, but when you ask them what they would pay per wheel, or if you tell them they must buy a whole set of 5, they either throw out a price so low that you can not recover the investment costs, go away pretty quickly.


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Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? [Re: silent-H-wheel] #843750
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What would be the needed projected retail price, per set of 5, to make it "happen"?

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? [Re: 6PACMAC] #843751
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What would be the needed projected retail price, per set of 5, to make it "happen"?





Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? [Re: rayztoy] #843752
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What would be the needed projected retail price, per set of 5, to make it "happen"?








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Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? [Re: smac77] #843753
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Paul, you out there ? this was your project and you were so close...... care to chime in and let us know what happened.

Later, Buzz

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Paul, you out there ? this was your project and you were so close...... care to chime in and let us know what happened.

Later, Buzz




Buzz, did you miss this reply ?

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The project is dead in the water, due to the economic slow down. The market for hundreds of sets required for manufacturing efficiencies of scale and affordable pricing is not there presently.

Lots of people say they're interested, but when you ask them what they would pay per wheel, or if you tell them they must buy a whole set of 5, they either throw out a price so low that you can not recover the investment costs, go away pretty quickly.




Maybe something was lost to you when you read his reply above, maybe this will be easier for you ? ...

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Le projet est mort dans l'eau, due au ralentissement économique. Le marché pour des centaines d'ensembles exigés pour des efficacités de fabrication de balance et de l'évaluation accessible n'est pas là actuellement.

Un bon nombre de gens disent ils sont intéressés, mais quand vous leur demandez que ce qu'elles payeraient par roue, ou si vous leur dites elles devez acheter toute une série de 5, elles l'un ou l'autre jet dehors un prix tellement bas que vous ne pouvez pas récupérer les charges de placement, partent assez rapidement.



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Maybe something was lost to you when you read his reply above, maybe this will be easier for you ? ...

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Le projet est mort dans l'eau, due au ralentissement économique. Le marché pour des centaines d'ensembles exigés pour des efficacités de fabrication de balance et de l'évaluation accessible n'est pas là actuellement.

Un bon nombre de gens disent ils sont intéressés, mais quand vous leur demandez que ce qu'elles payeraient par roue, ou si vous leur dites elles devez acheter toute une série de 5, elles l'un ou l'autre jet dehors un prix tellement bas que vous ne pouvez pas récupérer les charges de placement, partent assez rapidement.







Good one John!

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someone I saw on the web stamps them jusy like ma mopar did??? 25 a wheel my q is where are all the 15X6 wheel all I can find are 15X7 ????

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someone I saw on the web stamps them jusy like ma mopar did??? 25 a wheel my q is where are all the 15X6 wheel all I can find are 15X7 ????





New to the "H" Wheel scene eh? (just a little ribbing)

Do a search and then

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Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? [Re: JohnRR] #843759
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John.... as always you just love but before you I call out PAUL on this subject that was in it's final stages and suddenly droped off the face of the earth...... and for some reason Paul becomes JOHN and answers me . Anyway, (John) I get it no repro "H" wheels...... soooorrryyyy for asking.

Later, BUZZ

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John.... as always you just love but before you I call out PAUL on this subject that was in it's final stages and suddenly droped off the face of the earth...... and for some reason Paul becomes JOHN and answers me . Anyway, (John) I get it no repro "H" wheels...... soooorrryyyy for asking.

Later, BUZZ




John answered your question, you chose to ask the question again hoping for a different answer.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different outcome.

edit ... i see there is another john in the mix , I'm just having a little harmless fun with buzzyboy and is rabid obsession with this product .

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wow....i didnt know the H wheel subject was sooooooo touchy.

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John.... as always you just love but before you I call out PAUL on this subject that was in it's final stages and suddenly droped off the face of the earth...... and for some reason Paul becomes JOHN and answers me . Anyway, (John) I get it no repro "H" wheels...... soooorrryyyy for asking.

Later, BUZZ




Why all the agravation for a part that will always be a fake? You must like fake Rolex's too.


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Buzz,

Just to fill you in, John is one of the Partners in the wheel project. When we first started the Project the Minimum order was 800-1000 wheels we were Ok with that number and as tooling was finished and all licensing was completed the wheel company that we were dealing with changed policys/GM's and now Min order became larger, 2500 wheels!!!

We just dont think we can move that many wheels, thats 500 sets of 5 not to mention the storage for 2500 boxed wheels then add in the economy and there you have it!

Price on single sets of wheels wasnt our big issue its after we sell the first 50 or so sets of wheels what are we going to do with and where are we going to store the remaining 450 sets (2250 wheels)and will we ever sell that many sets in our lifetime???

Buzz we are not doing the wheels at this time. If your looking for a set of H's give Pete a call, Hes a straight shooter and will give you an honest description!!!
Thanks Paul

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"couple of dings,add proper "seasoning" and waa-laa! OEM!" THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN!!! We had company logo on the inside rimshell so everybody would know there a repo, theres lots of repro parts out there and there marketed that way!REPRO


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Buzz,

Just to fill you in, John is one of the Partners in the wheel project. When we first started the Project the Minimum order was 800-1000 wheels we were Ok with that number and as tooling was finished and all licensing was completed the wheel company that we were dealing with changed policys/GM's and now Min order became larger, 2500 wheels!!!

We just dont think we can move that many wheels, thats 500 sets of 5 not to mention the storage for 2500 boxed wheels then add in the economy and there you have it!

Price on single sets of wheels wasnt our big issue its after we sell the first 50 or so sets of wheels what are we going to do with and where are we going to store the remaining 450 sets (2250 wheels)and will we ever sell that many sets in our lifetime???

Buzz we are not doing the wheels at this time. If your looking for a set of H's give Pete a call, Hes a straight shooter and will give you an honest decription!!!
Thanks Paul

I'm fixin,
"couple of dings,add proper "seasoning" and waa-laa! OEM!" THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN!!! We had company logo on the inside rimshell so everybody would know there a repo, theres lots of repro parts out there and there marketed that way!REPRO





no no no...im sorry if you assumed i was thinking you guys would do that...i ment,as a joke,that people looking to purchase said wheels,would try and pass them off as oem,like i have seen in the past,on other parts,and it was apparent that it's was a repo unit...please forgive my non-sense humor. i will retract my post,im sorry. ..mike

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? [Re: imfixinmopars426] #843765
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Guys, sorry for the delayed reply.

Wasn't trying to stir any pots. Paul did a great job (better than me) explaining what happened on the wheel project.

It was really a shame. We have a lot of sunk costs into the project, including engineering, trademark royalties, etc.

We really would have loved to make it happen, but the economy tanking was the final strike after the wheel company changed its minimum order quantity.

Last I spoke to Chrysler's licensing group (pre-bankruptcy), they had another interested party to make the wheels, so I'm not sure if everybody's dream of a repro H wheel might come true after all.


John

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Guys, sorry for the delayed reply.

Wasn't trying to stir any pots. Paul did a great job (better than me) explaining what happened on the wheel project.

It was really a shame. We have a lot of sunk costs into the project, including engineering, trademark royalties, etc.

We really would have loved to make it happen, but the economy tanking was the final strike after the wheel company changed its minimum order quantity.

Last I spoke to Chrysler's licensing group (pre-bankruptcy), they had another interested party to make the wheels, so I'm not sure if everybody's dream of a repro H wheel might come true after all.




John , I'm the on this one ....

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