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Re: Cal-tracs and SS springs [Re: MR_P_BODY] #843488
12/17/11 12:54 PM
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The reason Calvert wants you to buy his mono spring because with s/s springs and the bars there is not enough shock that can control all that and that is why you are getting your bounce. There is not a shock out there that can control that. With the mono the spring is just holding up the car and the bar is doing all the work. You would get way to much and too fast of body separation and not get the tire to plant and hold with s/s springs and cal tracs.






the Rancho is just barely enough shock
for a standard spring and the Caltracs... so with
the SS spring you get way to much separation to quick...
also makes a difference on how much torque your throwing
at the rearend






And to help piece it together: Calvert monos are 200 and 225 lbs spring rate and my own SS springs are 160 on the right spring and (I think?) 125 on the left.


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Re: Cal-tracs and SS springs [Re: 340B5] #843489
12/17/11 02:01 PM
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"And to help piece it together: Calvert monos are 200 and 225 lbs spring rate and my own SS springs are 160 on the right spring and (I think?) 125 on the left."



Are you speaking of the front vs. rear sections of the mono's? As far as left to right, I believe they are the exact same spring on both sides. When I installed mine, I inspected them very carefully for a L or R, or a different weight rating, they were both identical, with the exact same part #. Any stagger in this system is designed to be handled by the bars.


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Re: Cal-tracs and SS springs [Re: StealthWedge67] #843490
12/17/11 05:14 PM
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No, just the two different rates they offer. I wonder how it would work w/a 225 on right and 200 on left.


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Re: Cal-tracs and SS springs [Re: 6PACMAC] #843491
12/17/11 06:47 PM
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How are Cal-tracs with stock, non SS springs? Those should let bars work better than the SS's , right?


I have a friend at the track who has raced for at least 30 years and has driven many different cars there and Is a killer driver especially on the tree so I can believe and respect his judgement on things. He recently told me that he tried the Cal Tracs on his SB Duster with the SS springs and he had to remove them for similar reasons mentioned on this thread. I am not sure what changes he has made at this time but he said he could not run them together. On the other side of that coin I run the Cal Trac setup with adj shocks from Calvert on my 82 Dodge short bed pickup. I am running a 493 Indy head engine and pull 1.47 sixty foots and my truck launches absolutely great. I am running a late 60's B Body rear on top of the stock 1/2 ton 5 leaf truck spring. The second leaf that sits right up at the top spring eye is the critical leaf. If its not there you will have issues as I did before installing it. The truck originally had 4 leafs. After installing it I had little problem with the rear suspension BUT BOY did ther CalTracs make a difference later. I can't swear to all combinations but on stock springs or Calverts mono leafs they will work great.

Re: Cal-tracs and SS springs [Re: 82ramIndy493] #843492
12/17/11 11:59 PM
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We put them on our 67 coronet after switching from stock to super stock , to the complete cal-vert set up, mono/shocks etc.
The car is weight is 37-3850 dep on driver, we didn't pick up any 60, in fact we lost a little, but the car did go straighter,but developed that bounce after the leave, so now we are now working on the front of the car to see what or anything is the issue, we put new 90/10 race shocks that was recommended by cal-vert , ball joints, tie rods , with no help. now we have to wait n see for the track to open to try some new items different setup on camber/ caster torsion bar settings.
But at this time, money spent over the ss springs wasn't worth the effert and the end results, at this time, maybe after much trial/ error sessions, maybe we can get more out of the system,

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