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Question about burnout technique #839835
10/26/10 11:21 PM
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I have always blipped the tires in the water box, rolled forward. Waited for the go signal from the track official then pump my brakes, hold the line lock, and hit the throttle with the car in 2nd gear holding it between 4K-5K. The problem I have is the rear end of the car always starts to slide to the left midway through the burnout.

Is there something I should be doing differently to eliminate this problem? I see guys go up there and smolder the tires and the rear of their cars don't move????


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Re: Question about burnout technique [Re: tywebb2] #839836
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Start in second, but very quickly get into third, hit 4500, release the line lock, and bring 'er out. should not slip sideways on ya more wheel speed helps stop that problem

Re: Question about burnout technique [Re: savoyracer] #839837
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Could be the track, the clutches going out in your rear end or you not getting on the throttle hard/fast enough.


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Re: Question about burnout technique [Re: Triple Threat] #839838
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I gotta ask, whats the point of blipping the tires in the water box. Seems like all that is accomplished is throwing more water on the undercarrige of the car.


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Re: Question about burnout technique [Re: savoyracer] #839839
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more wheel speed helps stop that problem




That's correct, you need more wheel speed to keep it straight.

Re: Question about burnout technique [Re: HemiDart68] #839840
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I gotta ask, whats the point of blipping the tires in the water box. Seems like all that is accomplished is throwing more water on the undercarrige of the car.



All it does is throw water up in the wheelwell so it can drip down onto the tire later. Just roll through the water.


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Re: Question about burnout technique [Re: an8sec70cuda] #839841
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I gotta ask, whats the point of blipping the tires in the water box. Seems like all that is accomplished is throwing more water on the undercarrige of the car.



All it does is throw water up in the wheelwell so it can drip down onto the tire later. Just roll through the water.




too add to it, roll through the water puddle and start your burnout on the wet pavement, not in the puddle.


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Re: Question about burnout technique [Re: tywebb2] #839842
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I have always blipped the tires in the water box, rolled forward. Waited for the go signal from the track official then pump my brakes, hold the line lock, and hit the throttle with the car in 2nd gear holding it between 4K-5K. The problem I have is the rear end of the car always starts to slide to the left midway through the burnout.

Is there something I should be doing differently to eliminate this problem? I see guys go up there and smolder the tires and the rear of their cars don't move????




Would depend on how big a tire you are using vs power. More air in the tire would get it spinning quicker ( wheel speed ) and I wouldnt blip it in the water.

Re: Question about burnout technique [Re: poisondart2] #839843
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I just always blipped the tires in the water because that is the signal the track official gave me. They always bring me up whirl their finger when I hit the water and then stop you in front of the water for the burnout. Based on the feedback I will make sure to roll through from now on.

I am running 28" ET Street Radials with 4.10 gears in the rear.

Is the verdict that I should be starting in 2nd with a quick shift to 3rd in order to get the wheel speed up vs. staying in 2nd like I have always done?


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Re: Question about burnout technique [Re: tywebb2] #839844
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I roll through the water in 2nd gear and start my burnout and get it up to 5000 rpm`s or so then shift into 3rd for a few seconds and slowly roll out of it. I used to come out under power but was warned by a few that it`s not too good on parts so who knows.


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Re: Question about burnout technique [Re: Thumperdart] #839845
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I roll very slowly thru the water and about 1ft past the water. 2nd gear and hold about 5k for 3 sec. let off button and ease off the gas as it comes forward. the newer compounds only need a small amount of heat and the tire cleaned off of any debris.

Re: Question about burnout technique [Re: nss guy] #839846
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If 3 seconds is all it needs then I know I am getting at least that before the rear starts to slide.


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Re: Question about burnout technique [Re: tywebb2] #839847
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Another vote for no spinning the tires(blip) of the throttle. I roll completely out of water to where the previous burnout was done. Set line lock and don't be afraid to get the ball rolling, get on it strong and fast and be ready to go to third as the tach sees fit, 1 second or so in high gear, let off the button and stay in it till rear starts to grab and off the gas.

Re: Question about burnout technique [Re: tywebb2] #839848
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Blipping the throttle is needed at some tracks.
A 32" tire that's over 8 feet of rollout, some tracks might only have a couple of feet down.

Blip'em. My

Re: Question about burnout technique [Re: AAR-B4] #839849
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I think he only has a 28" tire. The tire will push a puddle of water ahead of it. Plenty of water on the tire.

Pull up ahead of water
LIne lock second gear
Stand on it
When the engine rips put it in high
If running a rev limiter on the line lock pump the button to release the line lock but keep the rev limiter working and when you feel the car start to lunge back out of the throttle.
Pull on up and turn the top buld on and wait on the goof that can't figure out how to stage.


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Re: Question about burnout technique [Re: wheelsup68dart] #839850
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Another vote for no spinning the tires(blip) of the throttle. I roll completely out of water to where the previous burnout was done. Set line lock and don't be afraid to get the ball rolling, get on it strong and fast and be ready to go to third as the tach sees fit, 1 second or so in high gear, let off the button and stay in it till rear starts to grab and off the gas.






if they don't put down enough water ask for more. we are not bashful about stuff like that. i would not trust most burn box people, they don't care if you start in the same spot or not or if ur burnout is the same everytime. i've seen a lot of guys in door cars open the door and look for themselves.

Re: Question about burnout technique [Re: Leon441] #839851
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How 'bout these guys that think 10,000 rpms and so much smoke that nobody can see the 1 inch wheelie....or loose the motor?


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Re: Question about burnout technique [Re: tywebb2] #839852
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The problem I have is the rear end of the car always starts to slide to the left midway through the burnout.


One thing that can cause that is the caster on one front wheel is different than the other. And, IMO, the more positive caster the better.

I also agree that you should shift to high gear and get the wheel speed up.

There may be other causes...


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Re: Question about burnout technique [Re: 440Jim] #839853
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Here is a link to a video of my last two runs from the past weekend. The second run gives you a good view of what is happening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvwOtvyu6wc


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Re: Question about burnout technique [Re: tywebb2] #839854
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A good "burn out box" guy will spray behind the box. No need to blip the tires you get the tire wet driving through.


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