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Re: Aftermarket AC in a non-air Cuda - firewall pics?
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10/26/10 09:40 AM
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test fit in the firewall, engine compartment view
I epoxied 1/4-20 x 1.25" lag bolts to the interior plate to use as mounting studs in the firewalls original non-a/c heater blower mounting holes.
Last edited by gtx6970; 10/26/10 09:42 AM.
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Re: Aftermarket AC in a non-air Cuda - firewall pics?
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10/26/10 12:02 PM
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Excellent photo documentary Bill! Great job on avoiding drilling uneccessary holes in the car. It's much appreciated. I'm going to duplicate your efforts on my e-body this week.
Does the Vintageair unit not use the 3 bolts you epoxied around the stock heater mount at all instead relying exclusively on the other bolts they want the holes drilled in the cars firewall etc to mount it?
I'm finding I somewhat enjoy the challenge of adding performance accessories using the stock bolt holes etc to mount the brackets I make to install little goodies that "enhance" my ride's comfort, performance and reliability.
I see you used sound some kind of sound deadening/insulation mats in the car as recomended by Vintageair. I wrestled with the idea of using Dynamate in my car and finally decided to put some in where it can't be seen without looking up under the dash or pulling back the headliner or carpet etc. The benefits way outweight the pain it will be to potentially remove it some day....if ever. I supplemented the two bulk packs of Dynamate Extreme I used with rolls of double-side, foil-covered aircraft insulation for further heat, sound and vibration deadening that will one day potentially be easier to remove than the Dynamat etc. My buddy did his car and swears it made a huge improvement in driver comfort compared to stock.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: Aftermarket AC in a non-air Cuda - firewall pics?
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10/26/10 12:21 PM
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Does the Vintageair unit not use the 3 bolts you epoxied around the stock heater mount at all instead relying exclusively on the other bolts they want the holes drilled in the cars firewall etc to mount it?
No,
The only thing they use the original holes for is plastic push pins to mount the bulkhead plate to the engine compartment side of the firewall.
My customer wanted no part in drilling extra holes in the car unless absolutly neccassary.
I was going to use Dynamat,,,,but on a friends recomemdation. I went with a similar product from fatmat. It's the heavier .080" thick stuff called rattle trap
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Re: Aftermarket AC in a non-air Cuda - firewall pics?
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10/26/10 12:56 PM
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Does the Vintageair unit not use the 3 bolts you epoxied around the stock heater mount at all instead relying exclusively on the other bolts they want the holes drilled in the cars firewall etc to mount it?
No,
The only thing they use the original holes for is plastic push pins to mount the bulkhead plate to the engine compartment side of the firewall.
My customer wanted no part in drilling extra holes in the car unless absolutly neccassary.
I was going to use Dynamat,,,,but on a friends recomemdation. I went with a similar product from fatmat. It's the heavier .080" thick stuff called rattle trap
Thanks for the info! Yah, FatMat is high quality. I found that Amazon dotcom sells all that kind of stuff for a fraction of what anyone else does AND they often offer free shipping. That alone saved me a bundle.
If you ever have a need, here's the link to the other type of insulation I'm using under the carpets, behind the headliner and door-panels. Cut it to shape and seal the seams with that silver foil tape. I cocooned the whole interior with it after using the Dynamat. It's easy to remove if need be. I found it after a lot of searching. It's easy to install and the price is great compared to anything else available out there. The 1/2 thick stuff will only fit in the headliner and on the floors. It's too thick for anywhere else, but the single layer stuff is perfect for behind the door panels, rear package tray, and under the stock trunk mat(cut just undersize to keep it out of sight)
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/insulator.php
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: Aftermarket AC in a non-air Cuda - THANKS BILL ALLPHIN
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03/04/11 11:37 AM
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Do you block off the opening for the fresh air vents in an original non air car when you use the Vintage Air system? I may use Vintage air in an A-body in the near future.
Yes, there is a plastic block off plate included in the kit.
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Re: Aftermarket AC in a non-air Cuda - THANKS BILL ALLPHIN
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03/04/11 12:31 PM
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ONE MORE QUESTION THOUGH... did you drill the hole in the firewall for the drain hose? I really don't want to do this, but if it has to be done, then it does. Got anymore bright ideas up your sleeve? Anyone?
I broke down and drilled the hole. Make sure it aims the dripping water where you want it to go and not on the headers and such. I used a little elbow outside the firewall to aim mine away from the headers and down on the ground. I worried about the carpet and passengers feet pushing up and kinking the hose if it were off to one side or the other, so I drilled it straight in front of and down an inch from the evaporator's exit hole, and then used an elbow to aim it away from my headers.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: Aftermarket AC in a non-air Cuda - THANKS BILL ALLPHIN
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03/04/11 12:45 PM
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Due to lag time getting some parts for this car, it was back burnered for a while. My plan was to install some kind of elbow or tube exiting thru the Vintage air supplied firewall plate if at all possibile. Then install a factory E-body drain tube on the engine compartment side. 
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