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Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... #833351 10/19/10 12:42 AM 10/19/10 12:42 AM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can. 7 72demon416 OP pro stock
72demon416 OP pro stock 7 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can.	I'm about to go out and weld them up but then I got thinking about soldering them instead... It would be way easier to work with if tweaking is req'd- but is it too soft?

Re: Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... [Re: 72demon416] #833352 10/19/10 12:46 AM 10/19/10 12:46 AM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,617 long island NY A Ari440 master
Ari440 master A Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,617 long island NY	WELD THEM take the distributer apart two ligth spot welds , so you dont warp the plate did this on my tach drive long time ago 1.39 9.85 - 137 mph

Re: Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... [Re: Ari440] #833353 10/19/10 12:50 AM 10/19/10 12:50 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,698 NE Oklahoma V Von master
Von master V Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,698 NE Oklahoma	Quote: two ligth spot welds , so you dont warp the plate What happens if you warp the plate? I welded mine back in the spring and the idle quality hasnt been right since. 72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.

Re: Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... [Re: Ari440] #833354 10/19/10 01:18 AM 10/19/10 01:18 AM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can. 7 72demon416 OP pro stock
72demon416 OP pro stock 7 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can.	I see there is numbers 13L & 13R stamped into the plate- does that have any significant meaning?

Re: Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... [Re: 72demon416] #833355 10/19/10 01:28 AM 10/19/10 01:28 AM
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six-barrel member S Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 153 Wpg, Mb, Canada	Don at FBO sells a plate with 4 mech limit slots. No welding required. The 13 should indicate 13x2=26 degrees mechanical timing

Re: Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... [Re: six-barrel] #833356 10/19/10 02:02 AM 10/19/10 02:02 AM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can. 7 72demon416 OP pro stock
72demon416 OP pro stock 7 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can.	Well that certainly makes sense- thanks! Now.. Knowing that little tidbit I'm just a little more confused as to what is going on in my dizzy because I set my total to 32 @ 2600 and when I checked the initial it was @ 8 So... I figure I'll bump it to 18 initial but the total only went up to 38 I'm not sure whether there is a reason for that and I am uneducated in it's function or if there is a problem there? Either way, the slots are welded and it's going back together and we'll see how this works out.

Re: Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... [Re: 72demon416] #833357 10/19/10 02:49 AM 10/19/10 02:49 AM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora A ademon master
ademon master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	try JB weld

Re: Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... [Re: ademon] #833358 10/19/10 02:59 AM 10/19/10 02:59 AM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can. 7 72demon416 OP pro stock
72demon416 OP pro stock 7 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can.	Too late- I already welded it up... good idea though

Re: Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... [Re: 72demon416] #833359 10/19/10 03:11 AM 10/19/10 03:11 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,943 Melbourne.....Oz-land Moparmal master
Moparmal master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,943 Melbourne.....Oz-land	Make sure the slots are allowing the weight locator pins to traverse smoothly. Welding may have distorted them. As a rough guide and in a factory Mopar dist : Advance slot distances: .475 th = 15 deg in the plate .338 th = 9 deg in the plate

Re: Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... [Re: Moparmal] #833360 10/19/10 06:03 AM 10/19/10 06:03 AM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,384 Worst Weather USA 493_DART master
493_DART master Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,384 Worst Weather USA	i used this in my MP dist. http://www.amazon.com/Mallory-29014-Advance-Curve-Change/dp/B000BWE38W works perfect.

Re: Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... [Re: 493_DART] #833361 10/19/10 07:55 AM 10/19/10 07:55 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: i used this in my MP dist. http://www.amazon.com/Mallory-29014-Advance-Curve-Change/dp/B000BWE38W works perfect. What are them long red plastic things in the kit? Fastest 300

Re: Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... [Re: 72demon416] #833362 10/19/10 08:18 AM 10/19/10 08:18 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Too late- I already welded it up... good idea though If you have access to a gas welder brazing the slots works well also without putting too much heat to it. Also, keep in mind that most electronic distributors like the Mopar unit will retard about 1 degree for every 1000rpm over about 4K - and something slightly less than that starting around 3500, so when you are playing with advance curves / totals, always use the same rpm when setting the total timing. I usually like to use the 3 to 3500 rpm range ( very few circumstances where you want the curve to be past 3K ). That way I am sure all the mechanical is in, and I am staying out of the "electronic retard" range. Fastest 300

Re: Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... [Re: ademon] #833363 10/19/10 09:40 AM 10/19/10 09:40 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,698 NE Oklahoma V Von master
Von master V Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,698 NE Oklahoma	Quote: try JB weld I did this to my dist and it lasted about 1k miles before it fell out..... 72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.

Re: Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... [Re: Von] #833364 10/19/10 10:21 AM 10/19/10 10:21 AM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can. 7 72demon416 OP pro stock
72demon416 OP pro stock 7 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can.	I just put a couple of small 3 mm long tack welds in the center of the slots, the allowable travel of the pins is 6mm. My welds don't touch the sides and there was not nearly enough heat for distortion so as long as I welded up enough travel it should be all good

Re: Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... [Re: six-barrel] #833365 10/19/10 12:26 PM 10/19/10 12:26 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,426 Dandridge TN D Dabee master
Dabee master D Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,426 Dandridge TN	Quote: Don at FBO sells a plate with 4 mech limit slots Any one have contact info for Don @ FBO?

Re: Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... [Re: Dabee] #833366 10/19/10 12:44 PM 10/19/10 12:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,072 Cambridge, Ontario, Canada C CUDAJAS top fuel
CUDAJAS top fuel C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,072 Cambridge, Ontario, Canada	try www.4secondsflat.com contact info is on the website. Jason

Re: Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... [Re: Dabee] #833367 10/19/10 01:48 PM 10/19/10 01:48 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,698 NE Oklahoma V Von master
Von master V Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,698 NE Oklahoma	Quote: Any one have contact info for Don @ FBO? Good Luck...... 72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.

Re: Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... [Re: Crizila] #833368 10/19/10 05:21 PM 10/19/10 05:21 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,379 Airdrie, AB Mills pro stock
Mills pro stock Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,379 Airdrie, AB	Quote: Quote: i used this in my MP dist. http://www.amazon.com/Mallory-29014-Advance-Curve-Change/dp/B000BWE38W works perfect. What are them long red plastic things in the kit? Current MP distributors are fully adjustable (and made by Mallory) - no welding required. Those "Long Red Plastic things" are guages that you insert into the distributor so you can change the amount of mechanical advance (i.e. slot length) w/o taking the distributor apart. 1967 Satellite, CNC Eddy Headed 500ci Street Mauler (Dyno'ed @ 600 HP / 650 ft-lbs) 2016 Challenger Hellcat - Holy Hell 2012 Hemi Ram Sport Crew Cab 2011 Avenger, Pentastar V-6 2007 SRT-8 Charger (Dyno'ed @ 470 RWHP) 1986 Caravelle, 318, aka "Rosco", Back Road Burner! ALL Black...Bad Boys always wear Black!

Re: Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... [Re: Crizila] #833369 10/19/10 05:22 PM 10/19/10 05:22 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,384 Worst Weather USA 493_DART master
493_DART master Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,384 Worst Weather USA	Quote: Quote: i used this in my MP dist. http://www.amazon.com/Mallory-29014-Advance-Curve-Change/dp/B000BWE38W works perfect. What are them long red plastic things in the kit? you stick them in the slot while you adjust. there are diff degrees. They are surprisingly accurate .

Re: Welding up advance slots in M.P dist... [Re: 493_DART] #833370 10/19/10 06:50 PM 10/19/10 06:50 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Quote: Quote: i used this in my MP dist. http://www.amazon.com/Mallory-29014-Advance-Curve-Change/dp/B000BWE38W works perfect. What are them long red plastic things in the kit? you stick them in the slot while you adjust. there are diff degrees. They are surprisingly accurate . ok, thanks. Fastest 300

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