Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: CokeBottleKid] #832215
10/18/10 12:39 AM
10/18/10 12:39 AM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,275
Desert Tracker
H
HYPER8oSoNic Offline
top fuel
HYPER8oSoNic  Offline
top fuel
H

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,275
Desert Tracker
Quote:

Yes they proved it by saying it.

BTW Jesus was black. It is now proven.




Well, one man IS a KNOWN racer and MODERATOR, another man is a NOTABLE TQ repair/restorer/supplier and
RACER, the last man is a NOTED TQ tuner and RACER.
Ahh, I don't think it just them saying it!! Their backgrounds prove it!! BTW just a word
of friendly advice, debates on issues of religion is not good on the forum. Leave it off,
please.



Last edited by HYPER8oSoNic; 10/18/10 10:34 PM.
Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #832216
10/18/10 12:43 AM
10/18/10 12:43 AM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 30,248
Florida STAYcation
dIc dOc Deity ! Offline
The village idiot's idiot
dIc dOc Deity !  Offline
The village idiot's idiot

Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 30,248
Florida STAYcation
Ahhhh ... the PEPSIkid ....

.. LIVING in a haze(of Cheech and Chong "smoke" !) ..

Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: boydsdodge] #832217
10/18/10 12:53 AM
10/18/10 12:53 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 826
Stone Mt, GA.
D
DEMONSIZZLER Offline
super gas
DEMONSIZZLER  Offline
super gas
D

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 826
Stone Mt, GA.
If you look at both carb flanges on the LD340 and the Weiand 8022 you will notice that there is 'extra' material down both sides front to rear for the big 2ndaries of a T.Q. or other spread-bore carbs. This is purposefully done.

So the way to mount a T.Q. on either intake would be to take a T.Q. specific mount gasket and trace the pattern to the inside of the gasket on the intake itself and grind/shape as needed.

Or use a spread bore to square bore adapter. I have found that you will need to use a T.Q. mount gasket as a pattern and also grind the spread bore side to 'match' the 850 cfm's larger primaries to the front and outside edges for proper flow and to get rid of flow restriction.
If this is not done, the 850 cfm will perform poorly. If the work is done, the adapter works great, David.

Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: DEMONSIZZLER] #832218
10/18/10 12:23 PM
10/18/10 12:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,406
Kalispell Mt.
H
HotRodDave Offline
I Live Here
HotRodDave  Offline
I Live Here
H

Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,406
Kalispell Mt.
Why do you guys assume an adapter is robbing HP? Many Many guys find they go faster with a spacre and an adapter is almost the very same thing. Mabey I am the only one who does this but I like to take the adapter, bolt it on the intake and port it to smooth the transition till it is like one single piece of aluminum, thats how I roll with them on intakes not desighned for them and they seem to work VERY good. If you do that there is just no where for the HP to disapear

Not all M1s BTW can have a t-quad bolted right on and since he is talking about air-gaps and LD340 intakes it sounds like he wants a dual plane and the t-quad will not bolt to a M1 dual plane, onlyt the M1 single plane.


I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!



Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: HotRodDave] #832219
10/18/10 10:21 PM
10/18/10 10:21 PM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,275
Desert Tracker
H
HYPER8oSoNic Offline
top fuel
HYPER8oSoNic  Offline
top fuel
H

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,275
Desert Tracker
Quote:

Why do you guys assume an adapter is robbing HP? Many Many guys find they go faster with a spacre and an adapter is almost the very same thing. Mabey I am the only one who does this but I like to take the adapter, bolt it on the intake and port it to smooth the transition till it is like one single piece of aluminum, thats how I roll with them on intakes not desighned for them and they seem to work VERY good. If you do that there is just no where for the HP to disapear

Not all M1s BTW can have a t-quad bolted right on and since he is talking about air-gaps and LD340 intakes it sounds like he wants a dual plane and the t-quad will not bolt to a M1 dual plane, onlyt the M1 single plane.




Thanks Dave for the clarification on the spacers and adapters. I with ya, they don't
rob power but fine tune the airflow for the power
to work best in certain ranges.



"Stupidity is Ignorance on Steroids"
"Yeah, it's hopped to over 160" (quote by Kowalski in the movie Vanishing Point 1970 - Cupid Productions)
Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #832220
10/18/10 11:27 PM
10/18/10 11:27 PM
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,318
Manitoba, Canada
DaytonaTurbo Offline
Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,318
Manitoba, Canada
IIRC a few years back one of the mopar mags did a dyno test on those adapters and showed them to lose HP. However if they would have done like you describe, bolting them on then smoothing out the transition I suspect the loss would have vanished.

Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #832221
10/18/10 11:28 PM
10/18/10 11:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 42,714
Spokane Washington
ScottSmith_Harms Offline
Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms  Offline
Mr Wizzard

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 42,714
Spokane Washington
Of course if you want to have the king of all "Packs" you'll need a Navarro "Sixteen Pack"



Edit: Woops! Wrong thread.....

Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #832222
10/19/10 12:15 AM
10/19/10 12:15 AM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,275
Desert Tracker
H
HYPER8oSoNic Offline
top fuel
HYPER8oSoNic  Offline
top fuel
H

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,275
Desert Tracker
Quote:

Of course if you want to have the king of all "Packs" you'll need a Navarro "Sixteen Pack"










"Stupidity is Ignorance on Steroids"
"Yeah, it's hopped to over 160" (quote by Kowalski in the movie Vanishing Point 1970 - Cupid Productions)
Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #832223
10/19/10 09:41 PM
10/19/10 09:41 PM
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 757
Toronto, Ont, Canada
boydsdodge Offline OP
super stock
boydsdodge  Offline OP
super stock

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 757
Toronto, Ont, Canada
Why I ask is because the Thermoquad/LD340 combo works fantastic for me and what I use it for.
But since I am having a hard time finding an LD340 and that the RPM Air Gap is a great intake along the lines of the LD, I thought it would be great to combine a Thermoquad and RPM Air Gap.
Thats what/why I am asking.

Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: boydsdodge] #832224
10/19/10 09:58 PM
10/19/10 09:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 42,714
Spokane Washington
ScottSmith_Harms Offline
Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms  Offline
Mr Wizzard

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 42,714
Spokane Washington
Quote:

I thought it would be great to combine a Thermoquad and RPM Air Gap.





Short answer, absalutely yes, great combo! Long answer....It depends on your engine combo, but still likely a good combo for most any a street car.

Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: boydsdodge] #832225
10/19/10 10:09 PM
10/19/10 10:09 PM
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,318
Manitoba, Canada
DaytonaTurbo Offline
Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,318
Manitoba, Canada
Quote:

Why I ask is because the Thermoquad/LD340 combo works fantastic for me and what I use it for.
But since I am having a hard time finding an LD340 and that the RPM Air Gap is a great intake along the lines of the LD, I thought it would be great to combine a Thermoquad and RPM Air Gap.
Thats what/why I am asking.





I would be tempted to try out one of the spreadbore holley double pumpers on it. I think that could also make for a nice combo on a street car.

Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: HotRodDave] #832226
10/20/10 10:23 AM
10/20/10 10:23 AM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,061
New Mexico
D
dmerc Offline
super stock
dmerc  Offline
super stock
D

Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,061
New Mexico
Quote:

Why do you guys assume an adapter is robbing HP? Many Many guys find they go faster with a spacre and an adapter is almost the very same thing. Mabey I am the only one who does this but I like to take the adapter, bolt it on the intake and port it to smooth the transition till it is like one single piece of aluminum, thats how I roll with them on intakes not desighned for them and they seem to work VERY good. If you do that there is just no where for the HP to disapear

Not all M1s BTW can have a t-quad bolted right on and since he is talking about air-gaps and LD340 intakes it sounds like he wants a dual plane and the t-quad will not bolt to a M1 dual plane, onlyt the M1 single plane.




That's funny, I have a thermoquad on my Dual Plane M1 intake. I used an adapter. Why won't it work?

Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: boydsdodge] #832227
10/20/10 10:36 AM
10/20/10 10:36 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 24,562
Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck Offline
Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck  Offline
Not enough dumb comments...yet

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 24,562
Brookeville, Md
use the adaptor and add a hood scoop


[IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG]
Coming soon!!!!
Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: dIc dOc Deity !] #832228
10/20/10 10:20 PM
10/20/10 10:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,816
Alton, IL
D
Dakota_Don Offline
master
Dakota_Don  Offline
master
D

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,816
Alton, IL
Quote:

Quote:

I foolishly had that same combination for a litte (Thermobog on an RPM air gap). Just use an adapter... or better yet use a real carb.






A properly tweaked THERMOquad does NOT have a BOG issue at all ...PEPSIkid

And an ADAPTER is fine on a truck or RV ... but anything HP .. those adapters are NOT the plan.




i love tqs

Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: dmerc] #832229
10/20/10 10:35 PM
10/20/10 10:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,406
Kalispell Mt.
H
HotRodDave Offline
I Live Here
HotRodDave  Offline
I Live Here
H

Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,406
Kalispell Mt.
Quote:

Quote:

Why do you guys assume an adapter is robbing HP? Many Many guys find they go faster with a spacre and an adapter is almost the very same thing. Mabey I am the only one who does this but I like to take the adapter, bolt it on the intake and port it to smooth the transition till it is like one single piece of aluminum, thats how I roll with them on intakes not desighned for them and they seem to work VERY good. If you do that there is just no where for the HP to disapear

Not all M1s BTW can have a t-quad bolted right on and since he is talking about air-gaps and LD340 intakes it sounds like he wants a dual plane and the t-quad will not bolt to a M1 dual plane, onlyt the M1 single plane.




That's funny, I have a thermoquad on my Dual Plane M1 intake. I used an adapter. Why won't it work?




It bolts to the adapter not your intake. Just saying if he wants to do it with out an adapter the m1 dual plane is out, I would do it in a heart beat.


I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!



Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: boydsdodge] #832230
10/21/10 01:18 AM
10/21/10 01:18 AM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,275
Desert Tracker
H
HYPER8oSoNic Offline
top fuel
HYPER8oSoNic  Offline
top fuel
H

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,275
Desert Tracker
Quote:

Why I ask is because the Thermoquad/LD340 combo works fantastic for me and what I use it for.
But since I am having a hard time finding an LD340 and that the RPM Air Gap is a great intake along the lines of the LD, I thought it would be great to combine a Thermoquad and RPM Air Gap.
Thats what/why I am asking.





You are asking, we are agreeing!! Good setup!!
Just tune it to YOUR cars' liking.



"Stupidity is Ignorance on Steroids"
"Yeah, it's hopped to over 160" (quote by Kowalski in the movie Vanishing Point 1970 - Cupid Productions)
Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #832231
10/22/10 08:18 PM
10/22/10 08:18 PM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,275
Desert Tracker
H
HYPER8oSoNic Offline
top fuel
HYPER8oSoNic  Offline
top fuel
H

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,275
Desert Tracker
Quote:

IIRC a few years back one of the mopar mags did a dyno test on those adapters and showed them to lose HP. However if they would have done like you describe, bolting them on then smoothing out the transition I suspect the loss would have vanished.




100% with you!! Good point Daytona!!



"Stupidity is Ignorance on Steroids"
"Yeah, it's hopped to over 160" (quote by Kowalski in the movie Vanishing Point 1970 - Cupid Productions)
Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #832232
10/22/10 08:31 PM
10/22/10 08:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,622
Millinocket, Maine
J
JonC Offline
master
JonC  Offline
master
J

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,622
Millinocket, Maine
Quote:

Quote:

IIRC a few years back one of the mopar mags did a dyno test on those adapters and showed them to lose HP. However if they would have done like you describe, bolting them on then smoothing out the transition I suspect the loss would have vanished.




100% with you!! Good point Daytona!!






It still would be a tight if not impossible fit an a Cuda Ebody with twin scoop hood.

Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: JonC] #832233
10/23/10 12:22 PM
10/23/10 12:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,406
Kalispell Mt.
H
HotRodDave Offline
I Live Here
HotRodDave  Offline
I Live Here
H

Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,406
Kalispell Mt.
I would like to know how they conducted a test like that, if you swapped carbs to keep the flow going the way it was intended you could get differend results because the carbs were not on par, if you used the same carb for both tests you would have huge steps in the transition on one that would ruin that test


I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!



Re: Thermoquad on RPM Air Gap [Re: HotRodDave] #832234
10/23/10 01:00 PM
10/23/10 01:00 PM
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,075
Eastern Ohio
mopowergtx Offline
master
mopowergtx  Offline
master

Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,075
Eastern Ohio
Original poster. Street car right? Why not just run a stock 71-78 cast iron intake? Heck probably get one for free if you bug enough buddies for what they got laying around. Worst case scenario maybe twenty bucks.

Thats a 79 but I wish it was a 78 because of that stupid tin thermostat housing they started using and turned 45 degrees starting in 79. I missed that completely until after I sand blasted and painted it.

6264966-thermoquad.jpg (157 downloads)
Last edited by mopowergtx; 10/23/10 01:11 PM.
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1