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Hemi Oil Pump
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10/14/10 05:41 PM
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I need help to get the right pump cover & hope someone I have a World aluminum block which has the pickup plumbed directly into the block. I will use this for the single feed external line from the sump/pickup to the block. I want to run an Remote Oil Filter, so which pump cover should I use? I have the Milodon 21815 pump.? I want to retain the original engine mounts (Hemi/B-Body). Hope someone can help.! 
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Darren Beale
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
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10/14/10 05:42 PM
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whoops typo.. *hope someone can help!
pic of pump:
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
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10/14/10 06:48 PM
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Mopar_Rich
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Geeeze Darren, you just have to send me an email...
With the 21185 pump you use the 21220 or the 21230 cover. The 21220 has the second inlet from the back, and the 21230 has the second inlet from the side or the back, but the covers are interchangeable.
Remember the intermediate shaft is different with the pump.
You would use 21503 for a steel gear and 21523 for the bronze gear.
The remote filter fittings are -10 o-ring on the cover and -10 or -12 AN male for the lines. The covers do not include the fittings.
Last edited by Mopar_Rich; 10/14/10 06:56 PM.
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
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10/14/10 08:52 PM
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thanks Rich  . It looks like the #21230 is the best option, as it relates to retaining existing engine mounts. the pickup line from the pan goes to the front of the pump (the pickup hole at the front of the engine block is to be blocked off, as is the pickup flange inside the crankcase). It would be useful to see a picture of filter out/in if someone has one with the #21230. Drive gear noted, will need the bronze one. I'll make a trip to Earl's for the fittings. At least we have one of those stores in Australia not much else when it comes to Hemi's. 
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
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10/14/10 09:49 PM
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if you look at the pump, it has no provision to pickup any oil from the mounting surface on the block which is why i said you cant use the hole in the block,, that pump will actually block it all off just bolting the pump on,, id block off the external hole but the internal hole is no big deal. put a plug in the one you dont use on either the cover or pump, though id use the one on the pump,, i think its easier to fill the rotors comming from the back side,, ive tried both with a single line to 9000 rpm and seen no differnce in oil pressures
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
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10/14/10 09:56 PM
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whoops typo.. *hope someone can help!
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If you want only 1 oil feedline you can run a stock pump cover with that pump. Which is what I use on my dart.
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
[Re: moderncylinder]
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10/14/10 11:59 PM
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if you look at the pump, it has no provision to pickup any oil from the mounting surface on the block which is why i said you cant use the hole in the block,, that pump will actually block it all off just bolting the pump on,, id block off the external hole but the internal hole is no big deal. put a plug in the one you dont use on either the cover or pump, though id use the one on the pump,, i think its easier to fill the rotors comming from the back side,, ive tried both with a single line to 9000 rpm and seen no difference in oil pressures
So with the right cover I could feed the external line coming from the Pan into the rear of the pump (and block off the 2-front inlets one being in the pump itself and the other in the front of the block which will be blocked anyway with this pump) Correct ..??
If this is the case that'd be a clean install & the best for my application.
I assume in/out ports for the remote filter are thosee two ports on the front-leading edge of the pump cover?
Rich ...I think that'd be either of both of pump cover #21210 or #21200 ??
Darren
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
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10/15/10 12:15 AM
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I run a stock cover with the milodon pump you have pictured up top, and I thought summit sold a kit that worked with a stock cover. I could be wrong.
Last edited by Twin Turbo Mower; 10/15/10 12:19 AM.
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
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10/15/10 12:26 AM
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
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10/15/10 12:28 AM
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Andy, I want one!!
Do you make those...?
will it work with Milodon pump?
Darren
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
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10/17/10 04:19 PM
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This pump and cover assume TWO oils lines from the pan, and yes, block off the extra inlet if it's a World block.
Does this mean I "have" to run two pickups from the pan , or will I get by with just one?
...My understanding is 2 lines are not needed unless you're going over 7,000 rpm. 
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
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10/17/10 05:17 PM
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Mopar_Rich
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Does this mean I "have" to run two pickups from the pan , or will I get by with just one?
I always run two lines because I like the security of the extra oil feeds to the pump. But I have also dynoed many engines with just one line and I have never had a problem with only one line either.
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