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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
[Re: Mopar_Rich]
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10/17/10 06:34 PM
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Rich, I have very little room for the lines, so running with one is my preferred option.
Looking at the #21230, with the pump it looks like there are 3 pump inlet possibilities ...and if you count the front one on the block 4..!!?
Does this mean you can use ANY one inlet and just plug the others off?
(just being sure)
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
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10/17/10 07:01 PM
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Rich, I have very little room for the lines, so running with one is my preferred option.
Looking at the #21230, with the pump it looks like there are 3 pump inlet possibilities ...and if you count the front one on the block 4..!!?
Does this mean you can use ANY one inlet and just plug the others off?
In theory, yes. But you should look at the pump's impeller and use the inlet that obviously has the least restriction. This is usually the inlet that comes in from the side of the cover just like Andy's.
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
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10/17/10 07:11 PM
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you have 3 possibilities,, you CANNOT use the one in the block,,, in using that one oil has to flow through the pump,, like a stock pump does, the pump has a hole on the mounting surface to the block to pass the oil through, the milodon pump does NOT have that ability..
i run a single line to 9500rpm,,, i use a -16line though but many i know have used 12 lines to 9500
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
[Re: AndyF]
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10/18/10 05:44 AM
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Sounds like a good idea, be great if they implement it. I still reckon your cover would clear my engine mount if I use only one inlet (which is all I need).
In any event I bought the Milodon cover today.
I bought the pump a while ago... hope they're a good pump (!.?)
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
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11/05/10 12:53 AM
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.. AND .... ta da.. the pump cover doesn't fit! Does anyone make an oil pump cover: 1. external pick up, and 2. remote filer that will clear the engine mount.? Help please 
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
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11/05/10 12:55 AM
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another pic... without the cover on....
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
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11/05/10 04:08 AM
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...I am wondering what have other people have used with the Standard engine mount Hemi's that require external pickup and a remote filter? Indy..? Help greatly appreciated.
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
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11/05/10 09:08 AM
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.. AND .... ta da.. the pump cover doesn't fit!
Does anyone make an oil pump cover:
1. external pick up, and
2. remote filer
that will clear the engine mount.? Help please
It is possible to do but you need to modify your motor mount. I can share you some pics.
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
[Re: AndyF]
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11/05/10 09:43 AM
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This is the cover I use. It has #12 AN fittings machined into the cover with a straight shot to the external oil lines.
What's the reason this one would not work ? It looks like the cover you purchased sticks rearward too far , this one does not look as bad ?
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
[Re: Mopar_Rich]
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11/05/10 02:45 PM
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Re: I always run two lines
If the rotor cavity is segmented for 2 inlets (like a multi-stage dry sump), you've fine - but you have to run both or you're down 50% on volume.
If it's a common chamber to the rotor, you cannot run 2 lines unless you know that neither pickup will be exposed.
Why?
Because if only one pickup is submerged, the rotor has a choice to draw from either:
1. the thick, gooey, viscous oil from the wet pickup, or
2. the nice clean air from the exposed pick-up.
Guess what happens?
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Re: Hemi Oil Pump
[Re: AndyF]
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11/05/10 05:58 PM
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Andy, the cover looks great.. however I think the issue is that the pump is too thick, so a thinner cover will help but may not solve the problem. Are there any other HV pumps available... Indy..? .. I need a really good pump but don't have the room! sigh. Must have 1 x external feed line (can use block if needed), and provide for a remote filter. Is the standard hemi pump up to the job of supply very high output street engine...?
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