727 front pump leak
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will restricted pressure cooler line cause the front seal to leak. the front pump vent is plugged and a vent has been relocated to the rear of the housing. everything in the trans is new. and a pro trans brake. I just noticed the cooler line is kinked.
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Re: 727 front pump leak
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10/03/10 07:51 PM
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Where is it leaking from? The seal?
I could see a kinked cooler line cuasing excess line pressure that could result in a leak.
Fix the line, dry the trans, run it and inspect. If it is around the seal area (as is most common) you may also want to inspect the bushing and the conv snout.
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Re: 727 front pump leak
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10/03/10 07:55 PM
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In my opinion no,, several causes are bad pump seal,,torn gasket between pump and housing,,gasket's on the pump to housing bolt's,, and of course the dredded cracked converter hub,,the most common is the seal as it's easy to nick when putting the converter in.
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Re: 727 front pump leak
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10/03/10 11:06 PM
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bill and dartman thanks for the input. I put a new bushing, a new pump gasket, a new pump seal, I checked the hub when I had the pump apart. how many qts with a 8" converter. I have a 1 1/2 qt over size pan.
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Re: 727 front pump leak
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10/04/10 12:11 AM
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I will try that. thanks for the input.
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Re: 727 front pump leak
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10/04/10 08:37 PM
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The only way restricted cooler lines could cause a leak out of the front would be for the trans to overheat and push fluid out of the vent.
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Re: 727 front pump leak
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well like I said everything is new inside the trans. I corrected the kink in the pressure line. Then I drained and refilled with 3 qts initially, adding slowly until its was full enough. I do not know. Im going to take it out and take it to my trans expert and watch him fix the problem. Im trying to make it to clay city.
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Re: 727 front pump leak
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10/05/10 07:07 PM
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Quote:
I'm not a 727 guru so correct me if I'm wrong, if you plug the front cooling channel (= the output to the cooler), the oil flow from the converter will be to big so the front seal could start leaking,
The flow in and out of the converter is behind the bushing which is behind the seal, so that scenario would have to push the excessive flow past the fairly tight clearance of the bushing before reaching the seal which has a drain channel back to the pan.
As stated earlier,a clogged cooler line could cause overheating which might push fluid out the breather but not past the front seal.
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Re: 727 front pump leak
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10/06/10 01:13 AM
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Did you PRESSURE check the converter? Mine had no visible cracks but 25 - 30psi in the snout and some water around the weld showed a crack that was over 1/2 way around right in the middle of the weld. The firast time I checked I was so sure it was fine that I put a new pump seal and bushing in, moved the vent to the rear, put it all together, tested it, and had to tear it back out again.
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