Re: difference in dana with/without ABS
[Re: mshred]
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I work on Ford vans all day and the only difference internally is the exciter ring on the carrier and it can be removed. Not sure as far as tube diameter though.
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Re: difference in dana with/without ABS
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I work on Ford vans all day and the only difference internally is the exciter ring on the carrier and it can be removed. Not sure as far as tube diameter though.
can you explain? is it there for the abs? also, is there an abs provision on top of the housing for this? im wondering, if the exciter ring is removed from an abs rear, would there have to be something to take up its slack i.e. do the abs rears use a different cover or something?
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Re: difference in dana with/without ABS
[Re: mshred]
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The exciter ring is for the abs. It is a toothed wheel that goes on the third menber, and the sensor (the hole in the top) which is nothing more than a magnet counts the teeth and converts the pulses to mph. You dont need to do anything with it at all, leave the sensor unpluged and go for it. If you are changing gears, the exciter ring comes off easy if you want it gone. Pop out the carrier remove the ring gear and tap with a hammer. If changing to a locker or spool just toss the whole carrier. The rear covers are the same.
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Re: difference in dana with/without ABS
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The exciter ring is for the abs. It is a toothed wheel that goes on the third menber, and the sensor (the hole in the top) which is nothing more than a magnet counts the teeth and converts the pulses to mph. You dont need to do anything with it at all, leave the sensor unpluged and go for it. If you are changing gears, the exciter ring comes off easy if you want it gone. Pop out the carrier remove the ring gear and tap with a hammer. If changing to a locker or spool just toss the whole carrier. The rear covers are the same.
great info man! and here i was thinking this whole time that these would be unusable...i guess im not a fan of that look of the abs sensor on top, but if it will work it will work
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Re: difference in dana with/without ABS
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Re: difference in dana with/without ABS
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The ABS ring presses around the ring gear flange OD. It does not affect flange offset.
great, thanks!
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Re: difference in dana with/without ABS
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Here's a pic.
clutcher, what size are those axle tubes, and what kinda shock plates are you using with them?
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Re: difference in dana with/without ABS
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They are 3.125 tubes dia.
Stock plates or caltracs, just have to elongate holes a bit to fit bigger ubolt.
same as spring perches, just a small amount of grinding to fit larger tube.
this was out of 92 dodge, is 45.5" end to end.
add 5" for axle standout to give overall axle flange width of 50.5".
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Re: difference in dana with/without ABS
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They are 3.125 tubes dia.
Stock plates or caltracs, just have to elongate holes a bit to fit bigger ubolt.
same as spring perches, just a small amount of grinding to fit larger tube.
this was out of 92 dodge, is 45.5" end to end.
add 5" for axle standout to give overall axle flange width of 50.5".
thanks for the info again man! 
I guess im going to have to go the junkyard and measure to see what size tubes these things are coming with, as i cant seem to find a definitive guide of what make and what years the tubes went up to 3.5"
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Re: difference in dana with/without ABS
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I work on Ford vans all day and the only difference internally is the exciter ring on the carrier and it can be removed. Not sure as far as tube diameter though.
Pinion bearings are different. The late phord60 uses 8.8 brgs. Unsure about pinion shaft diameter differences. Also the phord axle tubes neck down at the backing plate flange. Not a concern if narrowing the housing. Hope this helps 
so are the ford ones unusable then because of this ring and pinion issue?
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Re: difference in dana with/without ABS
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glad to help.
the dana 70 can fool you. by itself without a tape measure,easy to mistake one for a 60.
Key is the tube dia. Havent seen a 60 with 3.5" tubes.
depending on width, the ford dana offers potentially longer tubes as the mopar setup captures sediment and collects moisture on top of the lower clamp.
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