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I have spoken with Galen about the spring special colors. Not many cars were built in any of the colors. They were all optioned the same depending on whether it was a 4 speed or not. Most were coupes, not hardtops. It seems the 4 speed cars came with the fresh air hood and the autos did not. Full undercoating and tinted glass too. All had the performance axle package.

I am not sure if Galen knows about about a few RoadRunners painted Dodge F6 instead of Plymouth Spring Green. I did a color check today on the 999 green and now I understand why it does not match other 999 plymouth green Road Runners. It's F6 dodge. The "sp green" written inside the car probably means "special" green, not spring green. surprise surprise


Car in Question RM21H9G2296XX
1969 Roadrunner 2dr Coupe
999 Green -Car is Dodge F6 green.
Spd 310 Y39
VON 9010XX
Note: This is a compilation of information
MoPAR B-body spring colors DODGE &. PLYMOUTH are different:
1969 Plymouth # 99 "spring? green metallic"
-- PPG paint code # 44032
1969 Dodge # F6 "bright green metallic"
-- PPG paint code # 2103

Spring Green was a mid year release and was coded 99, 97 or 97E depending on plant and time of year. Any non standard color, that is a color that was not specifically released for that particular make and model or cars that required special painting schemes, like a cop car, will code 99 (1969 code number).

There were some colors that received special coding such as Spring Green. Early on, it appears Spring Green was coded 99. All three plants used 99, 97 or 97E depending on the plant or time of year. Bahama Yellow coded 99 early in the year then later it codes 96. LA tended to stick with the 99 code while Lynch rd plants and ST Louis used 97 or 96 for Green and Yellow/Butterscotch.

Omaha Orange was also coded 99 before the color was changed to K2. There is at least one 99 code with a blue interior and it appears the car was blue. what color the car was actually painted is unknown. Occasionally, really odd paint codes like 16 pop up.

V2 starts to show up on Super Bees in late March and on other Dodges a little later. I've seen it on 329 SPD A12 cars.

There were not A12 specific colors, with the exception of Butterscotch on A12 Super Bees
Of the 99 "normal" colors petty blue is the least common. The Saint Louis Plant used 99, 97, and 97E for Rallye Green on the tags depending on Scheduled production date
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Is this 99 built march 10th considered an early SPD? STL was very hit and miss with Y codes...seeing Y39 on 69 STL car is a little unusual. Also the VON starts with 9, not common for STL 99 paint cars, so there most be some 'story' behind the car too. STL 99 paint cars did not normally receive- the special VON or Y39 code

This car in ??? is not spring Green but is a Plymouth painted F6 (F6 was released for Dodges but not for Plymouths.) That more than likely triggered the 99 paint code and probably call for the Y39 and special VON.

What is also interesting to me is the production date verses the sold date. This car was six months old before it was sold and the new models were out.

The first owner took possession of the car in September of '69? F6 Spring Green on a Plymouth is odd.

LA used special VONs for 99 paint almost all model year (very common for LA) but St. Louis did not follow the same format. There also seems to be a high percentage of 99 cars from the LA plant compared to overall production and to other plants.

Y codes and specialty VONs are also not common on STL tags. This is the first 99/Y39/9 VON tag seen by a collector of them.

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The year 1968 was a big year for the artwork of Peter Max and the psychedelic, celluloid adventure known as Yellow Submarine. No doubt about it, the late '60s were a happening era for wild hues. Like the other car companies, Chrysler was trying to keep in step with the times, so it offered the first of its legendary High Impact Paint colors during the '69 model year. The sobriquets were memorable, the colors retina-searing, and their legacy long lasting as some HIP colors significantly add to the desirability/price of muscle Mopars.

Controversy The Fact: Code F6, Bright Green Metallic for Dodge A- and B-Bodies was first mentioned in TSB D69-23-9, dated November 27, 1968. Some sources claimed that Code 97 Rallye Green is also F6 Bright Green Metallic, but the PPG/Ditzler paint numbers are different: 2103 (F6-Bright Green Metallic) and 44032 (97-Rallye Green). The numbers from Ditzler prove that Rallye Green and Bright Green Metallic were different. Additionally, a Chrysler-issued bulletin dated January 22, 1969, listed Ditzler #43898-Rallye Green for '69 Plymouth B-Bodies (Code 99). This is the same number as the catalogued '68 Chevrolet color of Rallye Green Metallic!
As it turns out, through 1968 Ditzler used a five-digit number to identify paint colors. Typically, Ditzler used the numeral "4" as a prefix for green hues. Beginning in 1969, Ditzler went to a four-digit numbering system; however, some five-digit catalog numbers were carried over. The catalog number "2103"-for F6 Bright Green Metallic-was issued during the '69 model year-and no sooner-for '69 Dodge A- and B-Bodies. The code "44032"-Code 97 Rallye Green-was the highest five digit number Ditzler issued for passenger car applications. It was assigned to give Chrysler a specific factory application number in the Ditzler paint books. Ditzler code "43898" is currently cataloged for '68-'69 Chevrolets only.
The actual formula used to create Rallye Green for Plymouth in 1969 was the same formula used for the 1968 Chevrolet-Rallye Green Metallic.
This was not the only time a Chrysler product wore General Motors paint-the '70 Chrysler 300-Hurst's Sauterne Gold Iridescent accents were taken from the '70 Cadillac palette.
Orange (V2) and Bahama Yellow (96) followed in Dodge TSB D69-23-20. Bahama Yellow was originally meant for the "Super Bee Six Pack only." For Plymouth B-Bodies, Vitamin C Orange (K2) replaced Omaha Orange (999) on approximately February 1, 1969, as stated in TSB 69-23-18 of April 7, 1969. Depending on the circumstances, these '69 colors would be identified on the data plates as special order code 99. For example, Bahama Yellow was first catalogued for Plymouth B-Bodies in a bulletin dated January 22, 1969.
The Next Decade High Impact Paint colors were cataloged for factory availability at the start of the model year for the first time in 1970. Dodge Technical Service Bulletin D70-23-6, dated April 1, 1970, stated that "Green Go and Panther Pink" had "been released." Using the Dodge nomenclature, there was Plum Crazy Metallic (FC7), Sublime (FJ5), Go Mango (EK2), Hemi Orange (EV2), Top Banana, and Panther Pink (FM3). Availability included A-, B-, and E-Bodies. The cost was $14.05 (Dodge and Plymouth), and could be included in a two-tone combination. Interestingly, HIP colors were offered on all body styles, including station wagons and 4-door sedans. Do you know of any out there? Two-tones excluded wagons and convertibles.

One Year Gone The last big year for HIP colors was 1971. For the first time, C-Bodies had cataloged availability: Plymouth (Tor-Red), Dodge (Citronyella), and Chrysler (Lemon Twist). In 1971, Lemon Twist was supposed to be meant only for Chrysler's

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I researched this (through PPG)when painting my former 69 Road Runner convertible (see attached photo). I have had many "discussions" over the years regarding this. By the way, my car was coded 99, along with the Y39 special order code, and had the same "SP Green" written on the brace behind the rear seat, as yours did.

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You are 100% correct - Mopar Rallye Green is the same Ditzler formula as Chevy Rallye Green, even though they have different formula numbers. I researched this (through PPG)when painting my former 69 Road Runner convertible (see attached photo). I have had many "discussions" over the years regarding this. By the way, my car was coded 99, along with the Y39 special order code, and had the same "SP Green" written on the brace behind the rear seat, as yours did.

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You are 100% correct - Mopar Rallye Green is the same Ditzler formula as Chevy Rallye Green, even though they have different formula numbers. I researched this (through PPG)when painting my former 69 Road Runner convertible (see attached photo). I have had many "discussions" over the years regarding this. By the way, my car was coded 99, along with the Y39 special order code, and had the same "SP Green" written on the brace behind the rear seat, as yours did.

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Not 100% but working on it. So what does the "SP" stand for? Spring or Special?

I have no pics of an F6 RR but many Plymouth-spring green. I did a spray out yesterday of the 1969 Plymouth # 99 "spring green metallic" -- PPG paint code # 44032 and it sent me looking at the color charts for another color.

Do you have a pic of your "sp green" writing?

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I researched this (through PPG)when painting my former 69 Road Runner convertible (see attached photo). I have had many "discussions" over the years regarding this. By the way, my car was coded 99, along with the Y39 special order code, and had the same "SP Green" written on the brace behind the rear seat, as yours did.

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I have never seen a Rallye green rr convert! That was a cool car. Where is it now? Bumper guards, buckets...wow.

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That was probably my old Ragtop I sold to a friend in California. It was real solid and ran but needed a resto. It was a 99 paint code.

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Here a couple of my car... the one Joe refers to. It was in CA but is now in WA. It is a 99 rallye green, 383 4 speed with A/C, power windows, power disc brakes, AM/FM, bumperettes front and rear, black bucket interior with console, tach, light group and dual mirror. It is a real oddball in that it is a cool special order color and a highly optioned convertible. Being restored right now. My buddy and I picked it up in GA back in '99. I bought it from him a few years ago. It looks to have made it to GA via Louisiana.

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