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How hard will it be to repair this rust?
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I'm looking at a car that has zero reproduction sheet metal. They're pretty rare too.
How hard would it be to repair/replace this roof assuming another vinyl top roof is not available?
My concern is with rust on the header under the skin. The car is 650 miles away so I can't do a visual inspection.
Yes, the repair would be covered with vinyl but that is no excuse to do shoddy repair work.
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Re: How hard will it be to repair this rust?
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09/23/10 02:31 AM
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Re: How hard will it be to repair this rust?
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09/23/10 06:27 AM
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if you cover it with another top, that would be easy to fix. just do it in a bunch of small patches and bondo over it to smooth it all out when done. if you cover it with another top, it doesn't have to be perfect, just solid and weatherproof.
a simple shrinker stretcher and sheet metal break will get the job done for you. I'd use the shrinker streatcher and make several patches 10-12 inches long, and weld them in in steps.
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Re: How hard will it be to repair this rust?
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09/23/10 10:48 AM
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Yes, the repair would be covered with vinyl but that is no excuse to do shoddy repair work.
I would think it depends on whether you intend to do the work, or if you're going to send it to a shop. Surely there's a reputable shop within a reasonable distance that could do it, but I doubt it would be cheap. If you intend to do it yourself, here's what I'd do (and I never have): take the windshield out. Measure the length and depth of what needs to be cut out. Measurements the angles for the breaks in the replacement sheet metal. Take that info to a local metal fabrication shop and have them cut and break a few straight pieces (at least one to practice on). To bend it, you'll have to cut notches at 1-2 inch intervals. Bend, hammer, weld, grind, fill, paint and you're done. Sound easy enough? Good luck!!!
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Re: How hard will it be to repair this rust?
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09/23/10 11:19 AM
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I work in the bodyshop of a high end dealership. Some of the guys here have done rust repairs on older cars. The guy who did high end restoration and fab work (Dusenbers and such) is no longer with us.
Unforunately, most of the guys in the shop want perfect parts to work with and don't take any interest in forming panels themselves.
I thought I'd toss it out here and see what you guys had to say.
I might be able to grab a section of roof off a current car to patch in.
What are the chances of the header below the roof skin being rusted through? I don't know that I want to get into patching structural stuff.
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Re: How hard will it be to repair this rust?
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09/23/10 11:33 AM
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I did the front roof of my truck with all metal not bad as yours but it did have some holess and I blasted it,filed it,sanded it,primerd it,now its ready for 320 and paint not sure if thats the way to go on it but just a suggestion  worked good on shaveing the gas door/mirror/trim holes on mine also ospho it to kill the rust I would say that would be the hardest part of any car is the front roof line and sheet metal 
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Re: How hard will it be to repair this rust?
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09/23/10 12:11 PM
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Working with a break or a roll is not all that hard. They are not cheap but Northern Tool has some that I am positive you would find useful. That being said, I would personally look for another car. Your near the west, someone in western Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico has to have a car you would find more pleasing. Don't jump at this just because you think this is the only one. Take your time. I guarantee you will find a better one in the next 6 months.
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Re: How hard will it be to repair this rust?
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I'm concerned with where the water went after leaking through the roof. It had to run down the A pillars. Chances are, they're toast too. No doubt the floors would hold it and get nasty as well.
Combine that with the color combo and I think the more doors I've seen are better cars to work with.
This is an incredibly high optioned car and it's a shame to see it die. I want to know WHY someone would order a gold car with a white top and green interior.
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Re: How hard will it be to repair this rust?
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09/23/10 01:27 PM
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What direction are you going with this build? If it's full custom why not throw another roof on it from a similar era car? It can be a cool effect on the right car.
Just throwing out asinine ideas.
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