The weekend lowering project
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I thought I would share my weekend project with everyone. I recently bought an 85 d150 swd 2wd to fix up for my daughter. Well we decided to lower it using some of the tricks learned here. Using drop shackles and flipping the spring hangers in the rear and van LCA in front. I tought I would post this and it might help some one else along the way. For starters here what it looked like before I started lowering it, I also took measurments to be able to check progress along the way. First step in the lowering were a set of chevy 2" drop shackles. Note the differnce in the orignal shackle and new ones. The old shackle at the bushing end is 1/2" and the new one is 5/8" so I came up with the plan that the old shackle has a metal sleeve that is 1/2 i.d. and 5/8 o.d. so I took a 1/8 drill bit and drilled all around the rubber to get the sleeve out of the old one. A torch would have been easier by just burning the rubber out but I don't have torches at the house. The new shackle the bushing is about 3/8" to wide so with the sawzall I cut 3/16 off each side of the rubber bushing and slid the metal sleeve from the old shackle and it worked like a charm. Hope you can see this in the picture. So here is what the truck looked like after the shackles being installed. This dropped the truck at the center of the rear wheel openings 1 3/4" and at the rear bumper 2 1/4" Next step was the spring hanger flip at the front of the rear springs. After much chisling with the air chisel, here is the hanger removed and the center lines drawn for the new holes. here are the hangers installed upside down. note the little bolt sticking throught the frame in front of the hanger this is the clamp bolt for the fuel lines. You can see the origianl hole for that bolt about an inch to an inch and a half below where I drilled and tapped the new hole moving the lines up so that will not be rubbing against the bolts in the hangers. Also did the same thing for the brake lines on the drivers side but moved it down to clear. And here is the rear of the truck all lowered. This lowered the truck in the rear at the center of the wheel openings a total of between both processes 3 1/2" and at the rear bumper 5". Next it was on to the front, Using van LCA. I had a hard time tring to figure out exactly at where to drill the new holes for the strut rod bolts. The distance from the ball joint was no problem but how to determine where center was for the two holes. So i finally decided to find center of the pivot bushing run a center line to the ball joint and use that to measure exactly where the two holes needed to be. Maybe I'm over thinking all this but that strut rod postion I think is critical to control caster of the alignment. So here is a picture of the control arms. On the left is the original in the center is the modified LCA note the ground of bump stop as well. On the right is what the van LCA looks like before you start. ON installing the LCA it's pretty straight forward unbolt & bolt. Have to drill the LCA pivot bolt mounting hole from 5/8" to 3/4". Also as putting back together make sure the spring is properly seated in its seats. When I did the first one, I got the truck together and set it down to only get 1/2" drop. I looked and said well this is disappointing along with other choice words. I had the upper part of the spring in off center and it was holding the truck up. So I jacked the truck up and with a crowbar and a big bang popped the spring back in place. set it back down and then it looked right. And finally here is the picture of the finished drop. I'm sorry for the poor quality of this picture I will take a better one tomorrow and add it to this post. So the final vedict on the drop, here are the numbers at the centers of the front wheel opening it is 3" at the rear its 3 1/2" at the bumpers starting with the front it droped 3" at the rear it ended up at 3 3/4". As far as cost $45 hangers $40 LCA $50 lower ball joints (optional) $34 Front shocks (optional) $20 3/4" drill bit to drill LCA pivot bolt hole Free all my labor $189 total I think it really helped the look of the truck. This week the truck gets an alignment and tires and wheels. Also as soon as the new bushing kit comes in this week I've got a front swaybar setup from the junkyard that I'm installing.
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Re: The weekend lowering project
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Looks awesome. I love the old Ram's.
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Re: The weekend lowering project
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Nice job, looks great..plan on doing the same to my '85. Where did you get the drop shackles?
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Re: The weekend lowering project
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Looks good! I'd love to find a nice clean truck like that to do something similar. I'd ditch the rear bumper and get one of those fiberglas rear pans. I'd also change to a 89/90 grille and a 70s front bumper.
I've been kind of thinking the same thing on the bumpers and grill. Just not completely decided what to do there yet. Thanks
Just remember the 81-85 86-90 and 91-93 have diff headlight locations. 81-85 and 86-90 are very close and grill setup can be swapped but you can see the headlight diff. Easy way is swap core support or if you can weld that way works too but 91-93 the core support and lower valance are needed aswell Looks good. My tires on my 73 Clubcab sat where yours do in the wheelwells in front but I had 205/75s. I have some pocketed control arms I plan to use with drop coils on my D code 74
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Re: The weekend lowering project
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A friend is doing an 84 Stepside. He was wanting to lower his too, but didn't know what to do on the front.
What year LCA's are you using? Are they out of your typical dodge van?
Thanks Chris
Mine came from a 82 3/4 ton van. The junkyard I went to had several of these vans one as new as 90 and the arms all looked the same. Maybe someone else with a little more knowledge can chime in and say what exact year models work. My understanding is any 3/4 or 1 ton van in those year models.
LCAs from B250s as well as newer B2500 are will work until at least '97 (mine are from a '97 B2500)
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Re: The weekend lowering project
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Clean looking truck Larry....Lucky Daughter
One thing more to do is: remove the factory Alignment Cam Adjuster Stop Plates so you can get more adjustment....ours needed the xtra range to get back to the factory alignment specs
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Rickster thanks for the advice. I really don't know what plates you are talking about could you please explain more and maybe a picture. The only plates I see are the one that the cam pushes against to adjust. Is that the one you are refering to? Thanks Larry
Yes those are the plates I'm referring too....had to remove them on our truck to get additional range to be in spec
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Re: The weekend lowering project
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Hey Larry I used stock shocks when I did mine I think I'm going to change them to something a little stronger....What did you use? The same on the back. The Truck is good on semi smooth road but a bear on those bad roads.
Hey Terry, I only changed the front shocks because I had the old ones out and they looked like the originals. I just used a stock replacement shock for it. The rears had been changed at some point and time. I'll have to drive it more to see how the ride is after I get it aligned on Thursday. so far I really don't see that much diffence in ride quality. On the front shocks changing the arms really didn't shorten the shock travel because the mounting point for the shock is lowered as well. So I wouldn't think changing the shock to a differnt shock on the front would help. Maybe cutting down the rubber bump stop. Now on the rear thats a diffenrt story. By lowering the truck it has shortened that shocks travel and it could be bottoming out. I am just going to drive it and see. If it feels harsh as far as bumps that it may be bottoming the shock out, I'll find a shorter shock for the rear. Maybe my roads are just smoother than your's Terry
I'm sure your roads are better than ours I cut the bump stops off of mine when I first lowered mine, no issue so far (over 5 Years) you might be right about the back shocks bottoming out ,I'll check too
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Re: The weekend lowering project
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what kind of chevy are the 2" drop shackles off of? and what year van for the lca's
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Re: The weekend lowering project
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what kind of chevy are the 2" drop shackles off of? and what year van for the lca's
You can go to autozone and get the drop shakles for $30
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Re: The weekend lowering project
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Latest update. Got the alignment done. While doing the alignment noticed the lower bump stop rubber bumpers were setting against the lower control arm at ride height. Unbolted them while doing the alignment. Which I beleive is going to be a mistake. Got the new wheels on today and really drove it quite a bit. When you hit a large bump in the road the lower control arm is coming in contact with the metal where the rubber bump stop bolted on and you get a loud clunk noise. So I am going to look into what I need to do for that. Any body else have an idea there? Now on to the pics of it as it is right now. just for comparison here is where I started Quite a bit of differnce there, if I do say so myself. I think it looks a lot better.
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Re: The weekend lowering project
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When I did mine, I drove it to the end of the street and saw the same thing. Cut them off and had no trouble after that. If I hit that big of a bump she all over with anyway Your Truck is lookin really Good
did the same thing....have had no problems although we didn't remove them I just trimmed them up 1" and never hits, but there if an extreme pot-hole may be encountered
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I took today and cut 1 1/4" off the rubber piece and reinstalled. Worked fine no more large clunk when hitting bumps. Just curious though has anyone ever cut out that metal piece that the bump stop bolts to so the suspension could travel farther?
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I took today and cut 1 1/4" off the rubber piece and reinstalled. Worked fine no more large clunk when hitting bumps. Just curious though has anyone ever cut out that metal piece that the bump stop bolts to so the suspension could travel farther?
Thats what they are refering to when they say they cut it out meaning they cut the whole bumpstop bracket out. Some have shortened the bracket aswell
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Re: The weekend lowering project
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I joined this site just now because I was linked to this write-up. I'll be doing the same thing to my 1980 big block D150 if I can find the lower control arms. Excellent write up.
I have one question. Did you use the existing coils up front?
Hello and welcome Kevin. Thanks for joining our group here. Yes you use the existing springs from your truck. Since you don't already have the lower control arms, I looked at the Pull-a-Part junkyard website for your area, they show at least 11 likely canidate vans for donors. If you have any more questions don't hesitate to ask. It really is a pretty simple deal to do this. Kevin are you going to the Music City Mopar Show on the 25th and 26th, since it's right in your neck of the woods? We'll be there with both my trucks for the weekend.
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Re: The weekend lowering project
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Hello and welcome Kevin. Thanks for joining our group here. Yes you use the existing springs from your truck. Since you don't already have the lower control arms, I looked at the Pull-a-Part junkyard website for your area, they show at least 11 likely canidate vans for donors. If you have any more questions don't hesitate to ask. It really is a pretty simple deal to do this.
I was there a couple weeks ago. It is just up the hill from where I work. I'll have to take my tools to work with me one day.
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Kevin are you going to the Music City Mopar Show on the 25th and 26th, since it's right in your neck of the woods? We'll be there with both my trucks for the weekend.
Great! I am planning to go. I look forward to meeting you and seeing your trucks. I don't know if I will bring any of my junk. I just finished lowering my 1998 SS/T and it still needs an alignment and the 1980 big block truck needs a few things done to it. I'll probably be in my wife's boring ole Durango.
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I joined this site just now because I was linked to this write-up. I'll be doing the same thing to my 1980 big block D150 if I can find the lower control arms. Excellent write up.
I have one question. Did you use the existing coils up front?
Welcome to the Madness Kev
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As I said before mine were cut off years ago
Hmmmmm....must be married
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Re: The weekend lowering project
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Great write up. I just have a few questions. I am lowering a '93 dodge dually. I already have the lower control arms that you all are using. For shorter springs I went with '94 3" lowering springs to get 2" of lowered ride height. in the back I replaced the stock shackles and replaced the front hangers with raised hangers. The stance is great but I ran into the issue of the tierods hitting the center link. and the steering input shaft hitting the upper control arm. How have you all worked these issues out. Is there a post on here that address it. Thanks for all the help
You dropped it more the 2". Stock 3/4 and half ton springs are what you want for 2" Go to rockauto.com and search the springs. They give load hieghts. These guys keep thier stock springs with these lower control arms. 1tons have a taller coil than half and 3/4.. I plan to do the opposite with my 3/4 ton and lift it with 94 4wd coils. Stock my coils are at 11.." tall and 94 4wds are 15"
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Re: The weekend lowering project
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It doesnt ride lower. Half and 3/4 tons use a coil that is 11" tall when on the ground and yours are 13.13" when on the ground installed on the truck so its actually only .13" taller do to the pocket. Free hieght for the stock 94 coils are 12.92dr and 12.63ps and thats not loaded. so take 3" out of than and its 9" for both plus 2"for the coil totaling 5" of drop. Did you put the springs side by side?
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Half ton springs won't work for me cause I am a diesel. But I may sell them. Do you think 1 coil cut off will drop the front 2 in.
You could try 1 and see where it sits and if need be remove a 1/2 at a time after that. I took 1.5 coils out on my 73 Clubcab and it road on the bumpstop brackets. Id give it a shot. Nothing to loose
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Kevin on breaking the arm loose from the knuckle I couldn't on mine either, I took out the two bolts that hold the lower part of the knuckle to the upper part, if my memory is right it takes a 15/16" socket and wrench to get these loose, this is the part that the lower ball joint goes through and just bought them that way. Then when I got them home I was able to seperate the ball joint from that lower part of the knuckle. As far as I know on your question about 1/2 ton vans. I'm pretty sure as long as they have the spring pocket in the arm they are the same. Hope this helps you. See ya at the Music City show.
Thanks for the tip. I was kinda frustrated yesterday. I didn't have much time to do it (lunch break) and some goober started taking something off the rear axle when I was tugging on it. I was afraid I'd knock the van off the wheels they had it propped up on and crush the guy, so I left.
I gotta put some tires on my wife's Durango Saturday morning. After that, I'm heading to Lebanon for the Mopar show. I'll see you there.
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It doesnt ride lower. Half and 3/4 tons use a coil that is 11" tall when on the ground and yours are 13.13" when on the ground installed on the truck so its actually only .13" taller do to the pocket. Free hieght for the stock 94 coils are 12.92dr and 12.63ps and thats not loaded. so take 3" out of than and its 9" for both plus 2"for the coil totaling 5" of drop. Did you put the springs side by side?
Ok so I removed the '94 dodge 3500 springs from my 93 dodge d350. I don't think that the company sent me the right springs. They are the same length but the coil thickness is alot thinner. The ammount of winding are the same too. This would explain why everything is so low in the front.
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Kevin on breaking the arm loose from the knuckle I couldn't on mine either, I took out the two bolts that hold the lower part of the knuckle to the upper part, if my memory is right it takes a 15/16" socket and wrench to get these loose, this is the part that the lower ball joint goes through and just bought them that way. Then when I got them home I was able to seperate the ball joint from that lower part of the knuckle. As far as I know on your question about 1/2 ton vans. I'm pretty sure as long as they have the spring pocket in the arm they are the same. Hope this helps you. See ya at the Music City show.
You were right. They were 15/16". It was so easy knowing that. The hardest part was getting that nut off the top of the shock. Now, I gotta clean them up and paint them. I can't decide if I will lower the rear with the flipped hangers/longer shackles or flip the axle on top of the leafs. I will probably lower the front and see what I have there and decide then.
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Yeah that makes it a lot easier by taking those bolts out. On the axle on top of the springs I personally have not done it but my understanding is that you ended up with about a 4 1/2" to 5" drop which I kind of think is to much for my tatse but to each their own. Good luck with it Kevin. Keep us posted. Larry
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Sorry to drag up an old post, but thought this question might be better answered here. I have van pocketed arms and new Trw 3/4 ton springs in the garage waiting for warmer weather. I had planned on trimming the 3/4 ton springs before I put them in, but I can't decide how much. My truck also has a horrible case of the dodge lean. I have almost 1 inch on lean to the driver side. So should I cut one round off the new springs, or would it be better to stagger them say, one full round drive side and a half round passenger. Or should the new springs solve the lean. I would like to get this truck low. In the range of the mid america kit. I am seriously considering a spring over in the rear since I am changing the rearend. I have an 3.55 limited slip rearend sitting in the "truck parts pile". Thanks for the help.
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i'm not sure about the 3/4 ton springs but I cut 1/2 coil on each(I had no lean)and used my stock coils (/6) and the van control arms (and flipped the back I run 235 70 15 on the front and 255 70 15 on the rear
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Thanks 1moparman, That is the look I am going for. I may try trimming up my stock springs before I cut up the new ones. Maybe I can trim the passenger side to compensate for the lean.
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Rockauto.com 1/2 ton 1990 DODGE D150 PICKUP 5.2L 318cid V8 TBI (Y) OHV : Suspension : Coil Spring Wiki Price RAYBESTOS Part # 5851080 Professional Grade; Sold in Pairs -- Inside Diameter=4" Wire Diameter=.812" Free Height=12.6" Load height=10.5" Front $73.79 Add to Cart MOOG Part # 7170 Sold In Pairs Frt Susp; Standard Duty Replacement; Constant Rate Springs $76.79 Add to Cart RAYBESTOS Part # 5851081 Professional Grade; Sold in Pairs -- Inside Diameter=4" Wire Diameter=.820" Free Height=12.5" Load height=11" Front; Heavy Duty $81.79 Add to Cart ROCKWELL Part # RC7170 Sold In Pairs Front; w/ AC; w/ M/T; Pickup Front; w/ AC; w/ A/T; Pickup Front; w/o AC; w/A/T; Pickup Front; w/o AC; w/M/T; Pickup (Only 1 Remaining) $81.79 Add to Cart ROCKWELL Part # RC7172 Sold In Pairs Front; w/o AC; w/A/T; Heavy Duty; Pickup Front; w/ AC; w/ A/T; Heavy Duty; Super Duty; Pickup Front; w/o AC; w/M/T; Heavy Duty; Pickup Front; w/ AC; w/ M/T; Heavy Duty; Pickup Front; w/ AC; w/ M/T; Heavy Duty; Super Duty; Pickup Front; w/o AC; w/M/T; Heavy Duty; Super Duty; Pickup Front; w/ AC; w/ A/T; Heavy Duty; Pickup Front; w/o AC; w/A/T; Heavy Duty; Super Duty; Pickup (Only 2 Remaining) $81.79 Add to Cart MOOG Part # 7172 Sold In Pairs Frt Susp; Heavy Duty Replacement; Constant Rate Springs $82.99 Add to Cart RAYBESTOS Part # 5851212 Professional Grade; Sold in Pairs -- Inside Diameter=4" Wire Diameter=.828" Free Height=13.02" Load height=11" Front; Severe Duty $88.79 Add to Cart MOOG Part # 7172S Sold In Pairs Frt Susp; Severe Duty Replacement; Constant Rate Springs $91.89 Add to Cart 3/4 ton 1990 DODGE D250 PICKUP 5.2L 318cid V8 TBI (Y) OHV : Suspension : Coil Spring Wiki Price RAYBESTOS Part # 5851080 Professional Grade; Sold in Pairs -- Inside Diameter=4" Wire Diameter=.812" Free Height=12.6" Load height=10.5" Front; Except 4000 Lb Axle $73.79 Add to Cart MOOG Part # 7170 Sold In Pairs Frt Susp; Exc. IFS-4000; Constant Rate Springs $76.79 Add to Cart RAYBESTOS Part # 5851081 Professional Grade; Sold in Pairs -- Inside Diameter=4" Wire Diameter=.820" Free Height=12.5" Load height=11" Front; Except 4000 Lb Axle; Heavy Duty $81.79 Add to Cart ROCKWELL Part # RC7172 Sold In Pairs Front; w/ AC; w/ M/T; Heavy Duty; Super Duty; Exc. IFS-4000 Front; w/ AC; w/ A/T; Heavy Duty; Exc. IFS-4000 Front; w/ AC; w/ M/T; Heavy Duty; Exc. IFS-4000 Front; w/ AC; w/ A/T; Heavy Duty; Super Duty; Exc. IFS-4000 Front; w/o AC; w/A/T; Heavy Duty; Super Duty; Exc. IFS-4000 Front; w/o AC; w/M/T; Heavy Duty; Super Duty; Exc. IFS-4000 Front; w/o AC; w/A/T; Heavy Duty; Exc. IFS-4000 Front; w/o AC; w/M/T; Heavy Duty; Exc. IFS-4000 (Only 2 Remaining) $81.79 Add to Cart ROCKWELL Part # RC7170 Sold In Pairs Front; w/o AC; w/A/T; Exc. IFS-4000 Front; w/ AC; w/ A/T; Exc. IFS-4000 Front; w/o AC; w/M/T; Exc. IFS-4000 Front; w/ AC; w/ M/T; Exc. IFS-4000 (Only 1 Remaining) $81.79 Add to Cart MOOG Part # 7172 Sold In Pairs Frt Susp; Exc. IFS-4000; Heavy Duty Replacement; Constant Rate Springs $82.99 Add to Cart RAYBESTOS Part # 5851212 Professional Grade; Sold in Pairs -- Inside Diameter=4" Wire Diameter=.828" Free Height=13.02" Load height=11" Front; Except 4000 Lb Axle; Severe Duty $88.79 Add to Cart MOOG Part # 7172S Sold In Pairs Frt Susp; Exc. IFS-4000; Super Duty Replacement; Constant Rate Springs $91.89 Add to Cart ROCKWELL Part # RC7226 Sold In Pairs Front; w/ AC; w/ M/T; Heavy Duty; Super Duty; w/ IFS-4000 Front; w/ AC; w/ A/T; Heavy Duty; w/ IFS-4000 Front; w/o AC; w/M/T; Heavy Duty; w/ IFS-4000 Front; w/ AC; w/ M/T; Heavy Duty; w/ IFS-4000 Front; w/o AC; w/A/T; Heavy Duty; Super Duty; w/ IFS-4000 Front; w/ AC; w/ A/T; Heavy Duty; Super Duty; w/ IFS-4000 Front; w/o AC; w/M/T; Heavy Duty; Super Duty; w/ IFS-4000 Front; w/o AC; w/A/T; Heavy Duty; w/ IFS-4000 (Only 2 Remaining) $107.79 Add to Cart RAYBESTOS Part # 5851108 Professional Grade; Sold in Pairs -- Inside Diameter=3.99" Wire Diameter=.906" Free Height=14.65" Load height=13.13" Front; 4000 Lb Axle; Heavy Duty $108.79 Add to Cart MOOG Part # 7226 Sold In Pairs Frt Susp; w/IFS-4000; Heavy Duty Replacement; Constant Rate Springs $113.79 Add to Cart RAYBESTOS Part # 5851213 Professional Grade; Sold in Pairs -- Inside Diameter=4" Wire Diameter=.906" Free Height=15.1" Load height=13.13" Front; 4000 Lb Axle; Severe Duty $126.79 Add to Cart MOOG Part # 7226S Sold In Pairs Frt Susp; w/IFS-4000; Super Duty Replacement; Constant Rate Springs $130.79 Add to Cart ROCKWELL Part # TT7215 Sold In Pairs Front; HD Upgrade; 3500lb Rating; 3" Lift Over New Stock Height; 2WD (Only 2 Remaining) $282.79 Add to Cart 1ton
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Re: The weekend lowering project
[Re: 76dodgeboy]
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02/06/13 08:55 PM
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Just giving this a since there have been questions on lowering and van LCA's.... Why isn't this in the archives? Good info here with good pics, what more do you need?
John
The dream is dead, long live the dream.......😥
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Re: The weekend lowering project
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so i see some guys buy lowering shackles and some guys flip the axle,are these both correct or is one way better than the other?
secondly,i assume this swap works in reverse?i have a van i want to raise for tire clearance and this month i will be gettin a /6 truck i want lower so would this be a feasable crossover weekend swap in a driveway with basic tools and a pistol drill?
A good elder is needed to weld on new spring perched and also new U-bolts and car spring plates for axle flip to lower. Not failure with vans. If the leaf is under the axle that yes you can lift it by putting the leaf on top of the axle. New perched will need welded on and you actually might be able to just swap spring plates between van and truck along as the van is indeed axle over spring as All fullsize trucks 72-93 are axle under spring. Also need to correct opinion angle
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Re: The weekend lowering project
[Re: DodgieDodger]
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07/01/16 01:17 AM
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