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Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: 76dodgeboy] #795164
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I took today and cut 1 1/4" off the rubber piece and reinstalled. Worked fine no more large clunk when hitting bumps. Just curious though has anyone ever cut out that metal piece that the bump stop bolts to so the suspension could travel farther?


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Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: adventurer] #795165
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the van lower control arm, I was wondering if it would work on a 99 ram hummm...

Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: adventurer] #795166
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I took today and cut 1 1/4" off the rubber piece and reinstalled. Worked fine no more large clunk when hitting bumps. Just curious though has anyone ever cut out that metal piece that the bump stop bolts to so the suspension could travel farther?




Thats what they are refering to when they say they cut it out meaning they cut the whole bumpstop bracket out. Some have shortened the bracket aswell

Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: adventurer] #795167
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Just curious though has anyone ever cut out that metal piece that the bump stop bolts to so the suspension could travel farther?



Yes...in 2001...no troubles since.

Nice write-up by the way. I've got a buddy about to lower a '93 Ramcharger and this thread will be easier than me trying to explain everything to him.

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Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: adventurer] #795168
09/13/10 11:28 PM
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I joined this site just now because I was linked to this write-up. I'll be doing the same thing to my 1980 big block D150 if I can find the lower control arms. Excellent write up.

I have one question. Did you use the existing coils up front?

Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: Kevin I] #795169
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I joined this site just now because I was linked to this write-up. I'll be doing the same thing to my 1980 big block D150 if I can find the lower control arms. Excellent write up.

I have one question. Did you use the existing coils up front?




Hello and welcome Kevin. Thanks for joining our group here. Yes you use the existing springs from your truck. Since you don't already have the lower control arms, I looked at the Pull-a-Part junkyard website for your area, they show at least 11 likely canidate vans for donors. If you have any more questions don't hesitate to ask. It really is a pretty simple deal to do this.
Kevin are you going to the Music City Mopar Show on the 25th and 26th, since it's right in your neck of the woods? We'll be there with both my trucks for the weekend.

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Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: adventurer] #795170
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Hello and welcome Kevin. Thanks for joining our group here. Yes you use the existing springs from your truck. Since you don't already have the lower control arms, I looked at the Pull-a-Part junkyard website for your area, they show at least 11 likely canidate vans for donors. If you have any more questions don't hesitate to ask. It really is a pretty simple deal to do this.




I was there a couple weeks ago. It is just up the hill from where I work. I'll have to take my tools to work with me one day.

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Kevin are you going to the Music City Mopar Show on the 25th and 26th, since it's right in your neck of the woods? We'll be there with both my trucks for the weekend.




Great! I am planning to go. I look forward to meeting you and seeing your trucks. I don't know if I will bring any of my junk. I just finished lowering my 1998 SS/T and it still needs an alignment and the 1980 big block truck needs a few things done to it. I'll probably be in my wife's boring ole Durango.

Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: Kevin I] #795171
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Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: Cheeto] #795172
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As I said before mine were cut off 5 years ago

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Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: Kevin I] #795173
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I joined this site just now because I was linked to this write-up. I'll be doing the same thing to my 1980 big block D150 if I can find the lower control arms. Excellent write up.

I have one question. Did you use the existing coils up front?




Welcome to the Madness Kev

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Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: Webster] #795174
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As I said before mine were cut off years ago




Hmmmmm....must be married

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Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: rickstershemi] #795175
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As I said before mine were cut off years ago




Hmmmmm....must be married

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Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: adventurer] #795176
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Great write up. I just have a few questions. I am lowering a '93 dodge dually. I already have the lower control arms that you all are using. For shorter springs I went with '94 3" lowering springs to get 2" of lowered ride height. in the back I replaced the stock shackles and replaced the front hangers with raised hangers. The stance is great but I ran into the issue of the tierods hitting the center link. and the steering input shaft hitting the upper control arm. How have you all worked these issues out. Is there a post on here that address it.
Thanks for all the help

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Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: Jere] #795177
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for your set up your going to have to to mount your ties rods on the bottom side of the steering knuckles you'll have to get a reamer or have a shop do it.your going have to lower your strut arms below your arms by a block or someother means on the top. I haven't done it yet but I was going to cut a piece of tubing in half and cut out a relief in the control arm and weld the 1/2 piece tubing. you folowing me. my trucks not quite as low as you used 3" drop springs (not sure if thats been done before) any way in my truck (I have no bump stops) I have hit the steering shaft the other day I was hauling butt trough a dip. so I was going to do the control arm mod and reattach a cut down bump stop, also I still have yet to buy my new dropped shocks so this might help also


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Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: Webster] #795178
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As I said before mine were cut off 5 years ago



nice lookin truck


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Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: 1moparman] #795179
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Ok I am following you, but will I have enough meat left in my spindle after reaming it from the bottom. The 1-ton tierod are larger than the half ton stuff.

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Great write up. I just have a few questions. I am lowering a '93 dodge dually. I already have the lower control arms that you all are using. For shorter springs I went with '94 3" lowering springs to get 2" of lowered ride height. in the back I replaced the stock shackles and replaced the front hangers with raised hangers. The stance is great but I ran into the issue of the tierods hitting the center link. and the steering input shaft hitting the upper control arm. How have you all worked these issues out. Is there a post on here that address it.
Thanks for all the help



You dropped it more the 2". Stock 3/4 and half ton springs are what you want for 2" Go to rockauto.com and search the springs. They give load hieghts. These guys keep thier stock springs with these lower control arms. 1tons have a taller coil than half and 3/4.. I plan to do the opposite with my 3/4 ton and lift it with 94 4wd coils. Stock my coils are at 11.." tall and 94 4wds are 15"

Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: Jere] #795181
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Ok I am following you, but will I have enough meat left in my spindle after reaming it from the bottom. The 1-ton tierod are larger than the half ton stuff.


not sure I haven't done it my self only heard of it being done I have drilled it out completely and installed heim joints.


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Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: 76dodgeboy] #795182
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Thanks for all the help



You dropped it more the 2". Stock 3/4 and half ton springs are what you want for 2" Go to rockauto.com and search the springs. They give load hieghts. These guys keep thier stock springs with these lower control arms. 1tons have a taller coil than half and 3/4.. I plan to do the opposite with my 3/4 ton and lift it with 94 4wd coils. Stock my coils are at 11.." tall and 94 4wds are 15"



Being that my truck is a '93 d350 it rides lower than the 1/2 ton trucks already I put 94 3500 3" lowering springs in to get a 2" drop. If I am following you correctly that is where you get more than 2". Providing the spring shop sold me the correct springs.
What heim joints would I use to mate the tierod to the spindles N E idea.

Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: Jere] #795183
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It doesnt ride lower. Half and 3/4 tons use a coil that is 11" tall when on the ground and yours are 13.13" when on the ground installed on the truck so its actually only .13" taller do to the pocket. Free hieght for the stock 94 coils are 12.92dr and 12.63ps and thats not loaded. so take 3" out of than and its 9" for both plus 2"for the coil totaling 5" of drop. Did you put the springs side by side?

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