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Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: mopeman] #795144
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A friend is doing an 84 Stepside. He was wanting to lower his too, but didn't know what to do on the front.

What year LCA's are you using? Are they out of your typical dodge van?

Thanks
Chris

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Hows does it ride?


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Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: adventurer] #795146
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Looks good! I'd love to find a nice clean truck like that to do something similar. I'd ditch the rear bumper and get one of those fiberglas rear pans. I'd also change to a 89/90 grille and a 70s front bumper.



I've been kind of thinking the same thing on the bumpers and grill. Just not completely decided what to do there yet. Thanks




Just remember the 81-85 86-90 and 91-93 have diff headlight locations. 81-85 and 86-90 are very close and grill setup can be swapped but you can see the headlight diff. Easy way is swap core support or if you can weld that way works too but 91-93 the core support and lower valance are needed aswell Looks good. My tires on my 73 Clubcab sat where yours do in the wheelwells in front but I had 205/75s. I have some pocketed control arms I plan to use with drop coils on my D code 74

Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: mopeman] #795147
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Nice job, looks great..plan on doing the same to my '85. Where did you get the drop shackles?



I got them from Ebay. Here is a link to the exact one I used. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-LOWERIN...=item588974c570


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Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: cdp] #795148
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A friend is doing an 84 Stepside. He was wanting to lower his too, but didn't know what to do on the front.

What year LCA's are you using? Are they out of your typical dodge van?

Thanks
Chris



Mine came from a 82 3/4 ton van. The junkyard I went to had several of these vans one as new as 90 and the arms all looked the same. Maybe someone else with a little more knowledge can chime in and say what exact year models work. My understanding is any 3/4 or 1 ton van in those year models.


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78 Dodge Adventurer SE 440 2wd Utiline
90 Dodge D150 SWB 2wd 318fi 4speed
60 Desoto Adventurer 2dr
67 Dodge Dart Gt Conv. 273 4bbl
04 PT Cruiser GT Turbo
14 Ram R/T
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Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: Brian123] #795149
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Hows does it ride?



Very well. Not much differnt than before it was lowered.


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67 Dodge Dart Gt Conv. 273 4bbl
04 PT Cruiser GT Turbo
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Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: adventurer] #795150
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Hey Larry I used stock shocks when I did mine I think I'm going to change them to something a little stronger....What did you use? The same on the back. The Truck is good on semi smooth road but a bear on those bad roads.

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A friend is doing an 84 Stepside. He was wanting to lower his too, but didn't know what to do on the front.

What year LCA's are you using? Are they out of your typical dodge van?

Thanks
Chris



Mine came from a 82 3/4 ton van. The junkyard I went to had several of these vans one as new as 90 and the arms all looked the same. Maybe someone else with a little more knowledge can chime in and say what exact year models work. My understanding is any 3/4 or 1 ton van in those year models.




LCAs from B250s as well as newer B2500 are will work until at least '97 (mine are from a '97 B2500)

Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: adventurer] #795152
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Clean looking truck Larry....Lucky Daughter

One thing more to do is: remove the factory Alignment Cam Adjuster Stop Plates so you can get more adjustment....ours needed the xtra range to get back to the factory alignment specs

Rickster




Rickster thanks for the advice. I really don't know what plates you are talking about could you please explain more and maybe a picture. The only plates I see are the one that the cam pushes against to adjust. Is that the one you are refering to? Thanks
Larry




Yes those are the plates I'm referring too....had to remove them on our truck to get additional range to be in spec

Rickster

Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: Webster] #795153
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Hey Larry I used stock shocks when I did mine I think I'm going to change them to something a little stronger....What did you use? The same on the back. The Truck is good on semi smooth road but a bear on those bad roads.



Hey Terry,
I only changed the front shocks because I had the old ones out and they looked like the originals. I just used a stock replacement shock for it. The rears had been changed at some point and time. I'll have to drive it more to see how the ride is after I get it aligned on Thursday. so far I really don't see that much diffence in ride quality. On the front shocks changing the arms really didn't shorten the shock travel because the mounting point for the shock is lowered as well. So I wouldn't think changing the shock to a differnt shock on the front would help. Maybe cutting down the rubber bump stop. Now on the rear thats a diffenrt story. By lowering the truck it has shortened that shocks travel and it could be bottoming out. I am just going to drive it and see. If it feels harsh as far as bumps that it may be bottoming the shock out, I'll find a shorter shock for the rear. Maybe my roads are just smoother than your's Terry


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Re: The weekend lowering project [Re: adventurer] #795154
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Hey Larry I used stock shocks when I did mine I think I'm going to change them to something a little stronger....What did you use? The same on the back. The Truck is good on semi smooth road but a bear on those bad roads.



Hey Terry,
I only changed the front shocks because I had the old ones out and they looked like the originals. I just used a stock replacement shock for it. The rears had been changed at some point and time. I'll have to drive it more to see how the ride is after I get it aligned on Thursday. so far I really don't see that much diffence in ride quality. On the front shocks changing the arms really didn't shorten the shock travel because the mounting point for the shock is lowered as well. So I wouldn't think changing the shock to a differnt shock on the front would help. Maybe cutting down the rubber bump stop. Now on the rear thats a diffenrt story. By lowering the truck it has shortened that shocks travel and it could be bottoming out. I am just going to drive it and see. If it feels harsh as far as bumps that it may be bottoming the shock out, I'll find a shorter shock for the rear. Maybe my roads are just smoother than your's Terry




I'm sure your roads are better than ours
I cut the bump stops off of mine when I first lowered mine, no issue so far (over 5 Years) you might be right about the back shocks bottoming out ,I'll check too

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what kind of chevy are the 2" drop shackles off of? and what year van for the lca's


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The LCA's come from the 1st year B van to 2001 that I know of with 5 lugs. 1st year being 71 or 72.The shackles I use are 88-98 Chevy 1500. I'll be doin the same to my daughter's white shorty soon.

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what kind of chevy are the 2" drop shackles off of? and what year van for the lca's



You can go to autozone and get the drop shakles for $30

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what kind of chevy are the 2" drop shackles off of? and what year van for the lca's



Heres a link to the exact drop shackles I used.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-LOWERIN...=item588974c570
LCA I used were from a 82 3/4 ton van.


77 Dodge Adventurer SE 440 2wd SWB
78 Dodge Adventurer SE 440 2wd Utiline
90 Dodge D150 SWB 2wd 318fi 4speed
60 Desoto Adventurer 2dr
67 Dodge Dart Gt Conv. 273 4bbl
04 PT Cruiser GT Turbo
14 Ram R/T
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what kind of chevy are the 2" drop shackles off of? and what year van for the lca's



Heres a link to the exact drop shackles I used.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-LOWERIN...=item588974c570
LCA I used were from a 82 3/4 ton van.




Those are the same exact shackles we used

Rickster

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Latest update. Got the alignment done. While doing the alignment noticed the lower bump stop rubber bumpers were setting against the lower control arm at ride height. Unbolted them while doing the alignment. Which I beleive is going to be a mistake. Got the new wheels on today and really drove it quite a bit. When you hit a large bump in the road the lower control arm is coming in contact with the metal where the rubber bump stop bolted on and you get a loud clunk noise. So I am going to look into what I need to do for that. Any body else have an idea there? Now on to the pics of it as it is right now.


just for comparison here is where I started

Quite a bit of differnce there, if I do say so myself. I think it looks a lot better.


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When I did mine, I drove it to the end of the street and saw the same thing. Cut them off and had no trouble after that. If I hit that big of a bump she all over with anyway
Your Truck is lookin really Good

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When I did mine, I drove it to the end of the street and saw the same thing. Cut them off and had no trouble after that. If I hit that big of a bump she all over with anyway
Your Truck is lookin really Good




did the same thing....have had no problems although we didn't remove them I just trimmed them up 1" and never hits, but there if an extreme pot-hole may be encountered

Rickster

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When I cut a coil and a half out it sat on the bumpstop brackets(rubber was gone)I drove it that way for just over a yr before the motor gave and I live 25 miles from work. Mine was my dd so couldnt really tear it back apart but it was only rough when the roads were bad. I chanded the travel aswell so the coils wouldnt flop around when the suspension was working

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