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Your ET's with RHS iron heads #785820
08/27/10 07:05 PM
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HI guys !!
For reference....shouw YOUR et's with your combo
using the RHS iron heads 1.92 or 2.02 int

My set up doesn't perform at all !

360 Magnum block
4.0 in stroker crank = 408 cu
RHS heads
10.1:1 cr
250/250 flat tappet mecanical cam .525 lift
1.6 adjustable crane rockers
998 trans 2.77 first gearset
3.91 rearend with spool
3800 stall converter
28'' ET drag tires

Dan

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Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785821
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For a street version of an RHS based 410:

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1

Our 12.2:1 CR RHS-headed 416 has been 10.33 @ 131 at 3100# through the muffs. Granted, this is more race car than street car with a spool, 8" converter, etc. It also has a 2.45 low gear 904.

Not knowing you timeslip deatails, the first thing that I notice is a low 1st gear coupled with a pretty tight conveter. It needs "flash" off the starting line to get it moving.

Tell us more...

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Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785822
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I'm not too far away and I have some info on those heads. Gimmee a shout on Monday at the shop 613-931-2157. J.Rob


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Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: cudadoug] #785823
08/27/10 10:30 PM
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I immediately questioned converter as well.

Distributor, carb and timing info?


Post a time slip for us.


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Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #785824
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What's wrong with the converter ????

RT .533
60 ft 2.23
1/8 8.8 82.8 mph
1/4 13.6 99.3 mph

IT JUST SUCKS !!!!!!!!

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785825
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A couple things stand out:


#1 Your 60' is killing you. Real bad. That is drastically hurting the ET

#2 I'm not so sure I'd be running 1.6 rockers on that. I am assuming these are untouched heads?

#3 Your back half MPH ( from 1/8th to 1/4 ) is a little weak. Its not pulling enough MPH there.


I'd concentrate on that 60' first. It will really improve that ET. How many passes have you made in it? Is it bogging, spinning, coughing etc on the launch?

What jets are in the carb?


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Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #785826
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That combo should be making in excess of 460hp

The converter isn't bad if it truly is a 3800. Brian's Duster with my 3500 verter went 1.43ish 60's.

There is something wrong, the MPH is very low. Should be in the mid 90's at 1/8th post if this is a 3300 pound car.

If this is in a 4500 pound tank, then take that into account.

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: RobX4406] #785827
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How are you launching it?

What carb?


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Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785828
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My first thoughts are, what distributor are you running, how is it set up and where ya got the timing set? Also, as someone else mentioned, what jets are in the carb and does it have power valves in it? If these things are in check I would have to ask if you are sure the converter is good? Everything else being in check it could be a bad converter to knock performance down that badly.

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: StrokerPost] #785829
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Sorry I left that out

I have a holley 800 cfm with 73 front and 86 rear ( stock )
Top of a M1 mainifold

Dan

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785830
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Are you 100% sure the carb is opening 100% ?


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Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: HotRodDave] #785831
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What RPM are you shifting at?


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Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: HotRodDave] #785832
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Hay. How bout post your time slip

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: earthmover] #785833
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Quote:

Hay. How bout post your time slip





Quote:

RT .533
60 ft 2.23
1/8 8.8 82.8 mph
1/4 13.6 99.3 mph








there is something very off here, unless this motor lives in a motorhome or something like that..
i bet its something very simple when you find it like carb not opening all the way maybe even not halfway or something else like that. or like writen earlier what does the car do how does it behave in the 60´

you will find the problem im sure

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785834
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Are you spinning off the line... what is the cam
degreed in at

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: MR_P_BODY] #785835
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Is this engine in an A, B, C or E body????

What size fuel line from tank to carb?

Can you push the car on a flat/level surface without much effort?

What type/size tires are on car?


A lot of info is missing!

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Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: SeanD] #785836
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HI guys !
The engine is in a 67 Barracuda

Yes there was alot of slippage, non glue at the track, but even that, I should have a better top speed..
I checked the carb before going there

There is more effort to push a car with a spool for sure...

I start thinking may be the problem is in the trans itself.....

Dan

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785837
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The car will be harder to push if you are turning only, in a straight line it should be fairly easy to push. Your 60' is terrible but the mile per hour is way off also. There is something wrong whether it be timing, carburation, fuel delivery, engine or drive-train. Pick a spot and sort it out.


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Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: dannysbee] #785838
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Was this engine bought assembled or did you or another builder put it together with known components?

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785839
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Quote:

HI guys !
The engine is in a 67 Barracuda

Yes there was alot of slippage, non glue at the track, but even that, I should have a better top speed..
I checked the carb before going there

There is more effort to push a car with a spool for sure...

I start thinking may be the problem is in the trans itself.....

Dan




How did you check the carb to make sure you were getting WOT?

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