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Your ET's with RHS iron heads #785820 08/27/10 07:05 PM 08/27/10 07:05 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada W Wedgeman OP pro stock
Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	HI guys !! For reference....shouw YOUR et's with your combo using the RHS iron heads 1.92 or 2.02 int My set up doesn't perform at all ! 360 Magnum block 4.0 in stroker crank = 408 cu RHS heads 10.1:1 cr 250/250 flat tappet mecanical cam .525 lift 1.6 adjustable crane rockers 998 trans 2.77 first gearset 3.91 rearend with spool 3800 stall converter 28'' ET drag tires Dan Last edited by Wedgeman; 08/27/10 07:33 PM.

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785821 08/27/10 07:53 PM 08/27/10 07:53 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,249 Between a rock & a hard place C cudadoug master
cudadoug master C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,249 Between a rock & a hard place	For a street version of an RHS based 410: https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1 Our 12.2:1 CR RHS-headed 416 has been 10.33 @ 131 at 3100# through the muffs. Granted, this is more race car than street car with a spool, 8" converter, etc. It also has a 2.45 low gear 904. Not knowing you timeslip deatails, the first thing that I notice is a low 1st gear coupled with a pretty tight conveter. It needs "flash" off the starting line to get it moving. Tell us more... Last edited by cudadoug; 08/27/10 08:39 PM.

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785822 08/27/10 09:51 PM 08/27/10 09:51 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,057 The Great White North RAMM super stock
RAMM super stock Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,057 The Great White North	I'm not too far away and I have some info on those heads. Gimmee a shout on Monday at the shop 613-931-2157. J.Rob 2009 PHR\EMC Competitor 2010 PHR\EMC Competitor 2011 PHR\EMC Competitor 2012 PHR\EMC Competitor 2013 PHR\EMC Competitor 2014 HotRod/EMC Competitor 2015 HotRod/EMC NoShow 2016 HotRod/EMC 3rd place SPEC Bigblock 2018 HotRod/EMC 7th place G3

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: cudadoug] #785823 08/27/10 10:30 PM 08/27/10 10:30 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,547 Syracuse,NY CompWedgeEngines master
CompWedgeEngines master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,547 Syracuse,NY	I immediately questioned converter as well. Distributor, carb and timing info? Post a time slip for us. RIP Monte Smith Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality. WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #785824 08/27/10 10:39 PM 08/27/10 10:39 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada W Wedgeman OP pro stock
Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	What's wrong with the converter ???? RT .533 60 ft 2.23 1/8 8.8 82.8 mph 1/4 13.6 99.3 mph IT JUST SUCKS !!!!!!!!

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785825 08/27/10 10:54 PM 08/27/10 10:54 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,547 Syracuse,NY CompWedgeEngines master
CompWedgeEngines master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,547 Syracuse,NY	A couple things stand out: #1 Your 60' is killing you. Real bad. That is drastically hurting the ET #2 I'm not so sure I'd be running 1.6 rockers on that. I am assuming these are untouched heads? #3 Your back half MPH ( from 1/8th to 1/4 ) is a little weak. Its not pulling enough MPH there. I'd concentrate on that 60' first. It will really improve that ET. How many passes have you made in it? Is it bogging, spinning, coughing etc on the launch? What jets are in the carb? RIP Monte Smith Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality. WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #785826 08/27/10 11:11 PM 08/27/10 11:11 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central RobX4406 I Live Here
RobX4406 I Live Here Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central	That combo should be making in excess of 460hp The converter isn't bad if it truly is a 3800. Brian's Duster with my 3500 verter went 1.43ish 60's. There is something wrong, the MPH is very low. Should be in the mid 90's at 1/8th post if this is a 3300 pound car. If this is in a 4500 pound tank, then take that into account.

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: RobX4406] #785827 08/27/10 11:53 PM 08/27/10 11:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,478 Kalispell Mt. H HotRodDave I Live Here
HotRodDave I Live Here H Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,478 Kalispell Mt.	How are you launching it? What carb? I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785828 08/28/10 12:15 AM 08/28/10 12:15 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,852 Missouri StrokerPost master
StrokerPost master Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,852 Missouri	My first thoughts are, what distributor are you running, how is it set up and where ya got the timing set? Also, as someone else mentioned, what jets are in the carb and does it have power valves in it? If these things are in check I would have to ask if you are sure the converter is good? Everything else being in check it could be a bad converter to knock performance down that badly.

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: StrokerPost] #785829 08/28/10 02:04 AM 08/28/10 02:04 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada W Wedgeman OP pro stock
Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	Sorry I left that out I have a holley 800 cfm with 73 front and 86 rear ( stock ) Top of a M1 mainifold Dan

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785830 08/28/10 02:06 AM 08/28/10 02:06 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,478 Kalispell Mt. H HotRodDave I Live Here
HotRodDave I Live Here H Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,478 Kalispell Mt.	Are you 100% sure the carb is opening 100% ? I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: HotRodDave] #785831 08/28/10 02:08 AM 08/28/10 02:08 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,478 Kalispell Mt. H HotRodDave I Live Here
HotRodDave I Live Here H Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,478 Kalispell Mt.	What RPM are you shifting at? I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: HotRodDave] #785832 08/28/10 04:45 AM 08/28/10 04:45 AM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,449 nc E earthmover top fuel
earthmover top fuel E Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,449 nc	Hay. How bout post your time slip

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: earthmover] #785833 08/28/10 06:37 AM 08/28/10 06:37 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden 1 1Fast340 master
1Fast340 master 1 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden	Quote: Hay. How bout post your time slip Quote: RT .533 60 ft 2.23 1/8 8.8 82.8 mph 1/4 13.6 99.3 mph there is something very off here, unless this motor lives in a motorhome or something like that.. i bet its something very simple when you find it like carb not opening all the way maybe even not halfway or something else like that. or like writen earlier what does the car do how does it behave in the 60� you will find the problem im sure

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785834 08/28/10 09:02 AM 08/28/10 09:02 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Are you spinning off the line... what is the cam degreed in at

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: MR_P_BODY] #785835 08/28/10 10:03 AM 08/28/10 10:03 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 269 Kansas wishing I was in Ohio S SeanD enthusiast
SeanD enthusiast S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 269 Kansas wishing I was in Ohio	Is this engine in an A, B, C or E body???? What size fuel line from tank to carb? Can you push the car on a flat/level surface without much effort? What type/size tires are on car? A lot of info is missing! Last edited by SeanD; 08/28/10 10:04 AM.

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: SeanD] #785836 08/28/10 10:25 AM 08/28/10 10:25 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada W Wedgeman OP pro stock
Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	HI guys ! The engine is in a 67 Barracuda Yes there was alot of slippage, non glue at the track, but even that, I should have a better top speed.. I checked the carb before going there There is more effort to push a car with a spool for sure... I start thinking may be the problem is in the trans itself..... Dan

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785837 08/28/10 11:35 AM 08/28/10 11:35 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas dannysbee master
dannysbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas	The car will be harder to push if you are turning only, in a straight line it should be fairly easy to push. Your 60' is terrible but the mile per hour is way off also. There is something wrong whether it be timing, carburation, fuel delivery, engine or drive-train. Pick a spot and sort it out. Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: dannysbee] #785838 08/28/10 12:00 PM 08/28/10 12:00 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 438 Great Lakes Region A abodiesonly1 mopar
abodiesonly1 mopar A Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 438 Great Lakes Region	Was this engine bought assembled or did you or another builder put it together with known components?

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785839 08/28/10 01:06 PM 08/28/10 01:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA. Quicksilver440 I Live Here
Quicksilver440 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA.	Quote: HI guys ! The engine is in a 67 Barracuda Yes there was alot of slippage, non glue at the track, but even that, I should have a better top speed.. I checked the carb before going there There is more effort to push a car with a spool for sure... I start thinking may be the problem is in the trans itself..... Dan How did you check the carb to make sure you were getting WOT?

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Quicksilver440] #785840 08/28/10 10:08 PM 08/28/10 10:08 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada W Wedgeman OP pro stock
Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	I had someone step on the pedal while I was looking at the venturis THis is a stroker kit assembled by an engine builder Dan

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785841 08/28/10 10:49 PM 08/28/10 10:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,478 Kalispell Mt. H HotRodDave I Live Here
HotRodDave I Live Here H Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,478 Kalispell Mt.	How is your timing? If you used the factory timing marks have you checked the timing marks VS the actual piston position? Sometimes the marks don't line up where the should be. Is it missing or bogging at all? I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: HotRodDave] #785842 08/29/10 01:05 AM 08/29/10 01:05 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,121 sc T tjmarcus1 top fuel
tjmarcus1 top fuel T Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,121 sc	SOMETHING IS WAY OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i used the caps to stress a point. it's not the vert or the trans.{ it should be faster than that with a stock vert and a 3.23 gear. small exhaust? cam off a tooth? no timing? too much timing?{which i doubt,it would probably be kicking back against the starter]

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: tjmarcus1] #785843 08/29/10 06:58 PM 08/29/10 06:58 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,221 Branson, Mo. J joedust451 super gas
joedust451 super gas J Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,221 Branson, Mo.	Quote: SOMETHING IS WAY OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i used the caps to stress a point. it's not the vert or the trans.{ it should be faster than that with a stock vert and a 3.23 gear. small exhaust? cam off a tooth? no timing? too much timing?{which i doubt,it would probably be kicking back against the starter] Yeah no s#it lol, something is definitly off, my piss ass junkyard 360 magnum with RHS heads run 12.5s @ 105 shifting @ 5100, make sure its getting good fuel supply. I'm also running a spool, its very easy to push on a straight! 75 Duster, 451 10.87 @ 123.58 NA 97 Z28 6sp., 12.01 @ 115 on a 100 shot 71 Swinger. 360 magnum. 12.58 @ 105 78 cutlass, 469 BBC. 12.70 @ 108 on street tires. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2kqNmMfheU

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: joedust451] #785844 08/29/10 08:47 PM 08/29/10 08:47 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada W Wedgeman OP pro stock
Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	I know something is wrong , but what ??? Yes there was a lot of slippage thursday at the track, non glue on the pavement on thursdays, my 60 ft was killing me for sure !!timing is ok, 180 psi on every cylinder, 250/294 mec cam...I have all the rught stuff !! I will sure put my finger on it.........I took the engine out today, just to see........ Dan

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785845 08/30/10 09:12 AM 08/30/10 09:12 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,123 Grand Haven, MI patrick I Live Here
patrick I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,123 Grand Haven, MI	Quote: What's wrong with the converter ???? RT .533 60 ft 2.23 1/8 8.8 82.8 mph 1/4 13.6 99.3 mph IT JUST SUCKS !!!!!!!! what intake/carb? how heavy is the car? what do you have for exhaust? I agree with others, your 60' sucks...cut it down to the 1.50's and you're in the mid 12's, possibly... but your MPH isn't too high, so it almost seems like it's laying down on the big end? 1976 Spinnaker White Plymouth Duster, /6 A833OD 1986 Silver/Twilight Blue Chrysler 5th Ave HotRod SOLD!* 2011 Toxic Orange Dodge Charger R/T 2017 Grand Cherokee Overland 2014 Jeep Cherokee Latitude (holy crap, my daughter is driving)

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: patrick] #785846 08/30/10 01:30 PM 08/30/10 01:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 269 Kansas wishing I was in Ohio S SeanD enthusiast
SeanD enthusiast S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 269 Kansas wishing I was in Ohio	If the car is hard to push in a straight line on a flat level surface look at the brakes hanging up first then make sure rear housing is NOT bent. If you have a mechanical fuel pump with 5/16 fuel line switch to electric fuel pump and min. 3/8 line. What type/manufacturer is your convertor? Money spent on a cheap convertor is wasted money. Good luck.

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: SeanD] #785847 08/30/10 09:28 PM 08/30/10 09:28 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada W Wedgeman OP pro stock
Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	OK....just to keep you informed Took the engine out to see.. Looks like one rod bearing shot and the mains are in very bad shape.....too bad I waisted money on an engine builder for assy,.....sould have done it myself as usual. Dan

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785848 08/30/10 09:55 PM 08/30/10 09:55 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,249 Between a rock & a hard place C cudadoug master
cudadoug master C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,249 Between a rock & a hard place	Quote: OK....just to keep you informed Took the engine out to see.. Looks like one rod bearing shot and the mains are in very bad shape.....too bad I waisted money on an engine builder for assy,.....sould have done it myself as usual. Dan What the...?? How old was this motor? Hopefully the "builder" will stand behind it.

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: cudadoug] #785849 08/30/10 11:17 PM 08/30/10 11:17 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada W Wedgeman OP pro stock
Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	Not even 400 miles on the motor.....and I stand alone. Dan

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: Wedgeman] #785850 08/31/10 12:29 AM 08/31/10 12:29 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,221 Branson, Mo. J joedust451 super gas
joedust451 super gas J Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,221 Branson, Mo.	Quote: Not even 400 miles on the motor.....and I stand alone. Dan I wouldn't let that machinest touch it again , fix it yourself. 75 Duster, 451 10.87 @ 123.58 NA 97 Z28 6sp., 12.01 @ 115 on a 100 shot 71 Swinger. 360 magnum. 12.58 @ 105 78 cutlass, 469 BBC. 12.70 @ 108 on street tires. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2kqNmMfheU

Re: Your ET's with RHS iron heads [Re: joedust451] #785851 08/31/10 06:26 PM 08/31/10 06:26 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada W Wedgeman OP pro stock
Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	.....And with you guys, I'm bulletproof !! Can't do worst anyway Dan

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