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Re: 383man
[Re: 69B3GT]
#781954
08/24/10 09:30 AM
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Mr.Yuck
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Just out of curiosity why not build a big block A body? I would think a 67-69 fastback barracuda would be a good choice
I think because of the exhaust manifold issue. As I recall the drivers side mani is very restrictive. I could be wrong. But yes a 383 Barracuda or Dart would look killer.
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Re: 383man
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
#781955
08/24/10 09:45 AM
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It's a dry heat
gtx6970
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Member rapid340 - aka Jeff Patterson runs a 1971 duster 340 in fast.
Last I heard the car is in the low 11's ,,,, he's in the elyria ohio area
Last edited by gtx6970; 08/24/10 09:47 AM.
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Re: 383man
[Re: scatpacktom]
#781956
08/24/10 10:06 AM
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A gulag near you.
JohnRR
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John, it's not a "non competitive package" it will be competitive with someone, just not the guy at the top.
That is true Tom but I doubt it would make the quick 8 field, at least not the one I'm building.
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Re: 383man
[Re: JohnRR]
#781957
08/24/10 10:37 AM
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From the sidelines........ Based on the performance of Jeffs White 71 Duster and the 72 CK built I'd say that there is potential for a small block A-body POSSIBLY breaking into the 10's someday, but I feel that's a reach at this point, it would take a max effort in every catagory (body weight, engine, etc.) to accomplish it. Heck Jeffs combo is an engine effort only, his car is a survivor type car with no mods at all that I could see (right Jeff?) 11.40's is pretty darn impressive all things considered! A big block car might be able to do it as well but I don't see it happening with the carb/intake/exhaust restrictions they have in an A-body application. 
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Re: 383man
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
#781958
08/24/10 11:15 AM
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HotRodDave
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The duster has a shorter wheel base I think and that would knock off a few pounds and help the hook up.
As far as weight is concerned I think the 65-66 would be the lightest, and you can run a single plane intake but the heads and exhaust manifolds are super restrictive, 67-69 cuda will be slightly lighter than a 70+ so that might make up a little for the smaller carb.
Ultimately though I think the most competative a-body would be the 71 duster, light weight, huge carb ok ex manifolds, intake just needs a lot of work.
I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!
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Re: 383man
[Re: HotRodDave]
#781959
08/24/10 12:41 PM
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The duster has a shorter wheel base I think and that would knock off a few pounds and help the hook up.
As far as weight is concerned I think the 65-66 would be the lightest, and you can run a single plane intake but the heads and exhaust manifolds are super restrictive, 67-69 cuda will be slightly lighter than a 70+ so that might make up a little for the smaller carb.
Ultimately though I think the most competative a-body would be the 71 duster, light weight, huge carb ok ex manifolds, intake just needs a lot of work.
not a pro here, but IMO the exhaust seems to be a bigger restriction than the intake on the 71 SB, i could be all wrong, but i have put about 30 or 40 hours in the intake and have removed a lot of metal!! seems like you cant do much at all to the exhaust.
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Re: 383man
[Re: DaytonaTurbo]
#781961
08/24/10 05:39 PM
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I dunno, restrictive exhaust or not, if you take a 440 and punch it over to a 540 and put it into a 69 Dart with the intake and exhausts ported as much as possible I think you should still really have something there that could be a very fun challenge. 
Don't be so sure. It sounds easier than it actually is 
MB
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Re: 383man
[Re: HPMike]
#781962
08/24/10 06:28 PM
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DaytonaTurbo
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I dunno, restrictive exhaust or not, if you take a 440 and punch it over to a 540 and put it into a 69 Dart with the intake and exhausts ported as much as possible I think you should still really have something there that could be a very fun challenge.
Don't be so sure. It sounds easier than it actually is
MB
I don't doubt that. But it sure would be cool!
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Re: A-Body F.A.S.T. Build Thread - Thoughts? Input?
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#781963
08/24/10 06:42 PM
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MOPAR HEADQUARTERS IN ALDEN NY
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i think a 1971 demon 340 sixpack gss car or 1972 340 gss supercharged car would be ringers for that class if allowed. low torque high hp stroker 340 build with those top ends, and 14x6 ralleys for widest tire for class. i think the big block a bodies would just blow of tires for 1/2 track.
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Re: A-Body F.A.S.T. Build Thread - Thoughts? Input?
[Re: hemigod426]
#781964
08/24/10 07:27 PM
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i think a 1971 demon 340 sixpack gss car or 1972 340 gss supercharged car would be ringers for that class if allowed. low torque high hp stroker 340 build with those top ends, and 14x6 ralleys for widest tire for class. i think the big block a bodies would just blow of tires for 1/2 track.
Not allowed.
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Re: 383man
[Re: JohnRR]
#781965
08/24/10 09:47 PM
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Just out of curiosity why not build a big block A body? I would think a 67-69 fastback barracuda would be a good choice
The challange with the big block A body is the driver side exhaust manifold.
I don't think the manifold is as bad as it seems , I'll find out how bad next year , at least on my pure stock 383 build , hopefully I get enough OT over the winter months to have the extra money to finish my low deck stroker , but it's basically a non competitive package , lousy intake and a small carb .
Also it's not as light as some think , my 69 383 GTS weighed 3605 in pure stock trim with a 190 lb driver .
You might be right, that is why I described it as a challange, as I would not want to presuppose what others can or cannot accomplish. My 68 weighs 3570 w/o driver.
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Re: 383man
[Re: big-block-dave]
#781968
08/25/10 01:31 AM
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big-block-dave
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Or maybe i should put a new clutch and such in this one and beat the snot out of it??? But it's a #'s matching, export order car(Y09) and i can't shift a 4spd car to save my life!!!! I guess that's what practice is all about???
I'm the CARETAKER of Weinstats '69 440 'cuda registry and have 104 of the 360 cars to date. 84 fastbacks/20 coupes. Always looking for new(REAL M-code) '69 440 'cudas to add to the registry so drop me a note if any are found or known. This isn't a publicly released registry. Thanks, Dave
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Re: 383man
[Re: big-block-dave]
#781969
08/25/10 08:12 AM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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Or maybe i should put a new clutch and such in this one and beat the snot out of it??? But it's a #'s matching, export order car(Y09) and i can't shift a 4spd car to save my life!!!! I guess that's what practice is all about???
then why don't you clone one. Nothing in the ruls bok says it has to be the real deal.
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