Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: 70challrtse]
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07/15/08 06:55 PM
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This has been a fascinating thread. The work on that Challenger is equivalent to a museum restoration. I feel lucky to watch the process/progress.
Trying to enjoy life!
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: calmopar]
#77245
07/16/08 01:35 AM
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I've also been reading this with great interest!
I got so absorbed with seeing this car, that I've been checking airfares to OH to see it.
What happened?
Well....That's Even More Than Less Than Unhelpful
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: calmopar]
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07/16/08 02:04 AM
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This has been a fascinating thread. The work on that Challenger is equivalent to a museum restoration. I feel lucky to watch the process/progress.
The information and information sharing in this thread is awesome. Dave has been great about sharing what he has learned on his car.
I thought the reasons this thread has been going on for so long is that people are learning so much from Dave's hard work on his car. And people are inspired to learn more about their particular body style and year.
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/16/08 01:02 PM
07/16/08 01:02 PM
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It would be IMPOSSIBLE for the blackout to have been applied in THAT pattern if the valance was in place. The bracket is right up against the core support and would have kept the blackout paint from covering that area. If you agree with that fact, then you have to agree that the valance was off the car in order to do the blackout procedure. That is when the core support black out, valance blackout, undercoat, bumper & brackets, etc....were performed. The front valance was left off to assist with those steps. The core support could not be covered with black out if the valance was sitting directly in front of it. Also look at the pattern of the blackout on the valance. It would be impossible to have that type of spray pattern if the part was bolted in place on the car.
it's interesting that the factory took the time to blackout the inside of the valance while it was still off the car, but that's deffinately what the evidence is pointing to.
So, if the front valance was painted off the car, how was that handled? Did it come down the line near the car and get painted at the same time, or were a variety of colors of pre-painted valances available at the instalation point? (I've always wondered how the painted side mirrors were handled also.)
I think Dave said earlier that he had spoken with a few people that had survivor type cars, and those cars exhibited undercoating on the marker light wiring, but not on the turn signal wiring where they plug together. Troy posted a picture showing us that his car Does have undercoating on the turn signal wiring. Thinking about this, I was wondering... Were the turn signals plugged in (and left to dangle?) while the undercoating was applied before the valance was installed? OR, If the turn signal was Not pluged in during undercoating then there must have been some kind of protector over the marker light wiring connection to keep the undercoating out of it?
Tav
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/16/08 01:08 PM
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Sorry guys but I have mixed up the front with the back. (Again, sorry for the mental lapse about the front valance being painted off the car. It was off for the black out. We did paint the rear ON the car and the front OFF the car.)
No problem Dave, I've done that before myself. Only a really great guy can admit it though. Thanks for letting us all know and setting this straight.
Tav
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/16/08 01:16 PM
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Hey Guys! New update. There will be no Challenger at the Nationals this year! Thanks for everything.
Dave,
Is this a true statement, and if so what happened?
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: cataclysm80]
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07/16/08 01:17 PM
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I seriously doubt undercoating would be applied to a partially assembled car.My 70 Hemi runner has undercoating on both ends of the side marker light plugs including a lot of the exposed under body wiring.
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: autoxcuda]
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07/16/08 01:31 PM
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The information and information sharing in this thread is awesome. Dave has been great about sharing what he has learned on his car.
I thought the reasons this thread has been going on for so long is that people are learning so much from Dave's hard work on his car. And people are inspired to learn more about their particular body style and year.
Hopefully this thread can continue even though the car won't make it to the show this year.
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The work on that Challenger is equivalent to a museum restoration.
I'd say Daves work on that Challenger is Far and Above Better than Anything you'd find in a museum!
I've missed deadlines on my projects several times before, hopefully it's just as simple as that, and we can all look forward to seeing the car whenever and wherever it is finaly debuted. Please let us know what's going on Dave, and if we can help you with anything, or find some parts you've been hunting for, let us know that too.
Tav
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/16/08 01:47 PM
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I seriously doubt undercoating would be applied to a partially assembled car.My 70 Hemi runner has undercoating on both ends of the side marker light plugs including a lot of the exposed under body wiring.
70 roadrunners don't even have a front valance to get in the way of bumper installation, etc. So that's probably Not a very good comparison. Still, it's an example of the turn signals being connected during undercoating. (It doesn't prove they were installed in the bumper during undercoating, they could have been dangling.) However, that roadrunner info may not apply at all to Challengers.
Tav
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: anlauto]
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07/16/08 02:48 PM
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Por que?
I'm assuming there's a problem with the flux capacitor on the teleporting machine..
We found the rotten banana peels we needed and the flux capacitor is once again operational.
(Translated: Always try to get a good nights sleep. Getting ten to twelve hours a WEEK will make you almost crazy if it doesn't kill you first! See you in Columbus.)
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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#77255
07/16/08 03:24 PM
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Sounds like all is well.Now about that new molded carpet.......
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/16/08 03:25 PM
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Por que?
I'm assuming there's a problem with the flux capacitor on the teleporting machine..
We found the rotten banana peels we needed and the flux capacitor is once again operational.
(Translated: Always try to get a good nights sleep. Getting ten to twelve hours a WEEK will make you almost crazy if it doesn't kill you first! See you in Columbus.)
With the car, I'm assumming?
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: 70challrtse]
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07/16/08 03:37 PM
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With the car, I'm assumming?
You betcha!! See you there Ron!!! (Email those pictures anytime if you have not already done so.)
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/16/08 03:42 PM
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70challrtse
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With the car, I'm assumming?
You betcha!! See you there Ron!!! (Email those pictures anytime if you have not already done so.)
Thanks Dave. I emailed the pics about 2 weeks ago. Let me know if you did not get them.
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/17/08 11:20 AM
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Scott, Friday is good! Hope to see you then. (Your mailbox is full. Couldn't send a PM.)
Awesome. I'll give you a call on Friday. (There's a slight chance I will be stuck working later than anticipated, but I'll let you know either way.)
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