Troy,
Who are you having this imaginary sarcastic debate with? The side marker fender lights are not the area of concern. It is the valance and the valance lights that were in question as to whether they were installed prior to under coating!

Hey, Nice pics Troy! Got one you can post for us showing the valance turn signal/wiring conector?

Possibly a pic of your front valance like the ones I posted of mine?

Tav

I wonder if these four humans were the only four that sprayed the factory undercoating for 12+ years, on two or three shifts and signed their names exactly the same way on their paychecks?

The brackets were on the car but not the bumper. Look at the picture posted by A12. Do you see anything installed beneath the grill? Where is the valance section in that picture? As far as 70 compared to 71 assembly procedures, it is an apples to oranges comparison. Many procedures changed from model years to expedite the processes. If you try to use 71 characteristics to justify 70 procedures, we need to debate whether 71 fender gills should actually be installed in 70 Cuda fenders.

Back of valance.

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,But still wondering if the valance had to be removed to install another component like the bumper or something, OR if it was painted off the car.

I just can't imagine why they'd remove the valance. Surely it wasn't removed just to keep undercoating off its backside.

Tav

At times they say a picture is worth a thousand words...

Sure is alot of paint on the fender where the valance butts up against it...

( I knew I had a picture of this some where )

Troy,
Please help me understand what point you are trying to make. You show a picture of the valance with the blackout paint as evidence of it being under coated!?!? (That is blackout paint; not under coating.) You also refer to “paint” on the tabs of the fender that connects to the valance but it looks more like primer and rust. (I can’t make out any paint at all.) As a matter of fact it looks like red oxide primer and the beginning edge/haze of brown paint just starting around the edge. I wonder what kept the spray from covering the inside part of the tab. The valance perhaps!? Proof that the valance was off the car when painted is evident in two different ways. First there will be no paint on the area between the fender and edge of the valance that bolts to the lower fender. Surely you have seen previous threads where people have posted pictures of their cars with NO paint in the area between the valance and fender edges? Second, if the blackout was done with the it in place, there would be areas behind the bracing that would not have blackout showing. There would simply be an outline when the valance is removed showing where it would have been in place. And how could anyone spray blackout with the valance installed and keep from making a mess of ALL the (supposed) parts that were bolted in place around it? Look at the pattern of spray going from front to back. It would be an almost impossible for the guy painting the blackout to maneuver around all those obstacles? I also think that road grime/tar is still being confused for under coating.

"You show a picture of the valance with the blackout paint as evidence of it being under coated!?!?"
....No, what I was trying to show is the lack of undercoating on the vallance.

"You also refer to “paint” on the tabs of the fender that connects to the valance but it looks more like primer and rust. (I can’t make out any paint at all.) As a matter of fact it looks like red oxide primer and the beginning edge/haze of brown paint just starting around the edge."
....What I was trying to say is the valance was off the car when it was painted. There is FT6 paint, clear as day under that speed nut.


I have a question about how the bumper brackets were installed. On my car I saw no undercoating on any of the front bumper brackets BUT there was no under coating under the brackets. How could this be???

So if the front valence did NOT receive final paint in it's final position in the car, when in the process was it put back on the car??

When did it receive the blackout paint behind the valence?

I see some bolt holes on the valance with exterior paint under them and some that were bolted when it got blacked out: (edit- car in question is a T/A, those holes are for the chin spoilers.)