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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: bremotorsports]
#77182
07/09/08 03:12 AM
07/09/08 03:12 AM
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Washington, MO
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I dug around in the 1970 Engineering Illustrations and found all the radiator inlet hose part numbers used during production. Quite a confusing list, and there's not a good way to list all the information. I'll just go through each sheet & application, and list what the part numbers are. Several of these hoses apply to multiple applications, but it's nearly 2am and I just didn't feel like consolidating it.
Section 30B5 Page 3.00 & 3.01
BJRWPDCY
E61, E63, E85, E86 with D32 (E87 called out but no part numbers listed)
W/ EED Alt, W/O A/C, W/ or W/O P/STR
3462114 - BJRWPDC - E61, E63 w/ 22" Rad
2863257 - BJ - E61, E63 w/ 26" Rad
3462116 - BJ - E86 w/ 22" Rad
3462113 - BJ - E86 w/ 26" Rad
2863221 - Y - E85
2863257 - RWPDC - all eng
Section 30B5 Page 3.20
RWPD
E61, E63, E85, E86
W/ Leese-Neville Alt, W/O A/C, W/ or W/O P/STR
3462114 - RWPD - w/o Police, w/o MaxCool (22" Rad)
2806186 - RW - w/ Police or w/ MaxCool (26" Rad)
2863230 - PD - w/ Police or w/ MaxCool (26" Rad)
Section 30B5, Page 3.30
BJRWPDCY
E61, E63, E85, E86
W/ EED Alt, W/ A/C, W/ P/STR (assume W/O P/STR also)
2863257 - BJRWPDC
3863221 - Y
(Next to these #s, the sheet lists the following reference:
S/O 3462114-HOSE (INLET)
not sure what this refers to)
Section 30B5 Page 3.40
RWPD
E61, E63, E85, E86
W/ Leese-Neville Alt, W/ A/C, W/ and W/O P/STR
2806186 - RW
2863230 - PD
Section 30B5 Page 3.50
BJRW
E74, E87
W/ EED Alt, W/ and W/O P/STR
2806186 - RW w/ E74
3462113 - BJ w/ E74
2863257 - RW w/ E87 w/ Man Trans ("& HI.CAP.", whatever that means)
3462114 - RW w/ E87 w/ Auto Trans
3462113 - BJ w/ E87 w/ Man Trans ("& HI.CAP.", whatever that means)
3462116 - BJ w/ E87 w/ Auto Trans
Sorry for just dumping the raw info out there, but that's all I can do at the moment. Hope this helps out a little bit...
Gene
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: anlauto]
#77183
07/09/08 01:50 PM
07/09/08 01:50 PM
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Florida
cataclysm80
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Most recently...based on the above two photos, the front valance on 70 Challengers must have been installed AFTER the fenders got there coating of sound deadener sprayed on, where-as on 71 Cudas the front bumper and valance were in place because the front signal light housing was almost always covered to some degree.
On my 70 challenger (SPD 8 26 69) there were a couple splatters on my front turn signals from the sound deadener application.
I think they were in place before application like on the barracudas.
Tav
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: ECS]
#77186
07/10/08 01:50 AM
07/10/08 01:50 AM
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N.E. OHIO, USA
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Update....The front valance was not on the car (Challenger) when it was undercoated.
Dave, Dave, Dave,  if anyone else made a post like that what would you be asking for   
MikeR
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: A12]
#77187
07/10/08 12:45 PM
07/10/08 12:45 PM
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USA
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David Walden
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Update....The front valance was not on the car (Challenger) when it was undercoated.
Dave, Dave, Dave, if anyone else made a post like that what would you be asking for
MikeR
Okay Mike. I apologize. How is this?
I found pictures of my Challenger that shows it did not have the valance on it when it was under coated. Dave Stuart also verified that his Challenger did not have the valance installed when under coated. Steve Been verified that his two original Challengers did not have the front valance in place when under coated. Hey Mike...quick question. At what point can I make a statement about my car (like 99% of the other members who post here) and not have to provide my Mother's maiden name or blood type to keep from being considered obstinate or hypocritical? I would have thought by now that you (or anyone) would realize that I do not post my "opinions" or "hopes" about anything pertaining to the reality of how these cars were assembled!
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: ECS]
#77188
07/10/08 04:18 PM
07/10/08 04:18 PM
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Florida
cataclysm80
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Hi Tav,
Could you please check really close on your valance for me?
Sure, no problem... Ok, Yes there are also some splatters on each end of the valance. I'll see if I can post a picture here soon. The car is a factory undercoat car if that makes a difference.
Tav
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: ECS]
#77189
07/10/08 04:26 PM
07/10/08 04:26 PM
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cataclysm80
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I found pictures of my Challenger that shows it did not have the valance on it when it was under coated.
Am I understanding that right? You found pictures of your car being undercoated on the assembly line without the valance installed? (That would be a truly amazing find!)
OR
You found pictures of your car prior to disassembly showing a lack of undercoating on your valance?
Tav
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: cataclysm80]
#77194
07/10/08 07:46 PM
07/10/08 07:46 PM
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That to me looks like road tar at least from the pics it does. 
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: cataclysm80]
#77195
07/10/08 11:05 PM
07/10/08 11:05 PM
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N.E. OHIO, USA
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What do you guys think, did I find Road Tar or Undercoating?
Undercoating, the pattern IMO would be front to rear if it were road tar the way the tire would sling it, not from the center of the car toward the outside.
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: cataclysm80]
#77197
07/11/08 02:33 AM
07/11/08 02:33 AM
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David Walden
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What do you guys think, did I find Road Tar or Undercoating?
Positively road tar Tav! Look at the pieces of sand and small rocks that are mixed in with the black. If it were under coating the debris would not have stuck to it like your pictures show. Under coat did not stay wet from the factory for days to allow for sediment to get captured. I have a few other people I talked with today who also had unmolested Challengers. They said their side marker light wire connector ends had spats of under coat but the valance light connector ends that plug into them were completely spec/under coat free. It would be impossible for wires that connect together to exhibit totally opposite characteristics if they were plugged together when the under coat was applied.
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: Troy]
#77200
07/11/08 11:14 AM
07/11/08 11:14 AM
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West Coast, CA
Troy
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PS...those covers were never gold cad....it just can't be?!?!
....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!
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