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Before this thread takes the usual turn with people suddenly knowing more (from a few pictures in bad lighting) than we did, let me make a couple of points. When you see an original car, you can't look at it's current condition and assume that is what it looked like when it was new. Over sprays fade and oxidation takes over from time and weather exposure. We could see where residues of color were still evident. Would anyone look at a 40 year old newspaper and say that the yellow pages were how they looked when new? Of course not! We did the best to recreate what was evident during our research. The colors were MATCHED almost perfectly against the best sample areas we could find that were not exposed to the elements. For those who are going to bring their millimeter ruler to see if we had the over spray to the exact "nth" degree, please do a little exercise before calling out our or ever so slight variances. Get a piece of paper and a pen. Sign your name twice. When you come up with two that are a perfect indistinguishable signature matches, please feel free to become our critic. Thanks!

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Youre right ECS some people are just stupid,them some people just know it all,or THINK they know it all.

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No, please let me rephrase my statement. I am sure you know much more about my car and this project than Steve and I do. Please excuse my naivety. I don't know what I was thinking. How dare I disagree with your obvious infinite wisdom and knowledge about my car.

(You might want to revisit your quote above and then take a good look in the mirror.)

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Thats absolutely beautiful work,but if your gonna talk the talk you have to walk the walk,If i were judging your car I would minus you for having way too much white underneath,(not enough primer showing)it looks like in the pics you purposely painted underneath the car except for the center hump,it needs more of a overspray affect on it.Im not downing your work the rest looks friggin awesome.But you said you were going to make a car look liked it timed warped from the 70's, you either got to back it up or eat crow,sorry I had to be a critic.

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You may be grasping at straws? I think the light makes the gray look lighter than it is.

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Yes you may be exactly right JD,could be a lighter color primer,or to glossy of a primer,but if you notice the front firewall pic looked like alot white under there to.

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It looks right to me? I've always seen them painted right up to the torsion bar cross member and would never want mine to look like just overspray in that area

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It looks right to me? I've always seen them painted right up to the torsion bar cross member and would never want mine to look like just overspray in that area

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Thanks for the input RoadrunnerJD. The point that was obviously overlooked was that this car was 100% original paint and we used THE CAR ITSELF as the reference point. How can anyone on this thread use any other example as a benchmark for correctness with regards to this specific car's paint patterns??? I can only laugh when people (that didn't even know about the car until this thread was posted) attempt to "correct" us on the appearance and the "slightly too much over spray" in the firewall area. (Which by the way, is almost an exact duplication of the original over spray we documented.) It will certainly be entertaining to watch people argue with the documented pictures that we bring to the Nationals and present with the car!

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(I can certainly say that our efforts over the past 2 years + has (MIRRORED) what someone would have received when taking delivery of a new vehicle from a Dodge dealership 38 years ago!)(I (GUARANTEE) that you will see a “factory” vehicle that looks like it has been teleported from the year 1970 to present day.)

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ECS Im not going to get into a heated discussion over your car,like I said before It looks awesome but when you make quotes like this

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(I can certainly say that our efforts over the past 2 years + has (MIRRORED) what someone would have received when taking delivery of a new vehicle from a Dodge dealership 38 years ago!)(I (GUARANTEE) that you will see a “factory” vehicle that looks like it has been teleported from the year 1970 to present day.)

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Please let me clarify this prior quote so there is no misunderstanding......

**It is exactly what I meant!**

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ECS Im not going to get into a heated discussion over your car,like I said before It looks awesome but when you make quotes like this

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(I can certainly say that our efforts over the past 2 years + has (MIRRORED) what someone would have received when taking delivery of a new vehicle from a Dodge dealership 38 years ago!)(I (GUARANTEE) that you will see a “factory” vehicle that looks like it has been teleported from the year 1970 to present day.)

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you are going to get criticized and I can tell by your arrogant replies you are not going to be able to take the heat.No where did I say that I knowed it all or implied that I knowed it all.Whenever you make big quotes like you did just make sure you will be able to back them up.

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Let me say this....

I did not know Dave at all before yesterday. I think what you are perceiving as 'arrogant' is what I perceive as being 'passionate' about what they are trying to accomplish. Plain and simple.

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Hello Scott,
Thanks for the input and the comments. (Thank you Sam for also sharing your original photos.) I don’t know why these threads end up becoming a bickering match between people who claim to have the same interests within a hobby. I had to laugh when I was told that I “would be criticized” sometime down the road. For what?!?! For restoring a car that emulates what it originally was? How can people who have never seen the car, (except for pictures that do not show it’s actual patina) be all geared up and chomping at the bit to attack and criticize? Why not wait until the car is shown and THEN start the slamming. And for those wonderful upbeat individuals, how are you going to deal with having to “back up” or eat your words? I promise that Steve and I will be ready to substantiate and prove every aspect of the car. A lot has been learned over the past three years.

*Sorry that this thread has diminished to such petty ignorance Scott. Thanks again for everything!

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Im sorry for being so ignorant ECS,sometimes my stupdity overcomes me.Your feelings must have been really hurt when I Obviously made the wrong comment on your car,but I was wondering are you kin to Galen Govier? But right now Im so jealous Im chomping at the bits.I never did really slam your car,you got uptight because I said I thought you had to much white or it was the wrong color primer,but until I see more pics you got way to much white underneath and not enough primer.By the way what kind of acrylic enamel did you use?

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ECS Im not going to get into a heated discussion over your car,like I said before It looks awesome but when you make quotes like this

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(I can certainly say that our efforts over the past 2 years + has (MIRRORED) what someone would have received when taking delivery of a new vehicle from a Dodge dealership 38 years ago!)(I (GUARANTEE) that you will see a “factory” vehicle that looks like it has been teleported from the year 1970 to present day.)

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Please let me clarify this prior quote so there is no misunderstanding......

**It is exactly what I meant!**

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Dave I do trust you and believe you and Im not going to argue anymore about the underside of the car,but ECS needs to eat crow on his comments,he will never be able to mirror that car as though it was teleported from 1970.Thats BS and you know it,and I GUARANTEE that!He should have said I am going to try,or close as possible because that sounds more professional and more believable.Let him tell it to somebody that believes it,but good point anyways Dave