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Taking it to the next level? Wow! #76762
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I had the opportunity to check out the U-code 1970 Challenger R/T being restored by Steve Been and Dave Walden(ECS) earlier today.

If I had to describe it in one word, it would be WOW!

I've been fortunate enough to look at more than a few top notch restorations in my time, but this one gives me the goose bumps while looking at it. It captures several little details that many of the other high level cars seem to miss. It has the paint runs, orange peel, overspray, and the general lack of paint in other areas that our cars exhibited when new. The effort gone into making this car look as if it just rolled off of the assembly line is astounding.

I cannot wait to see this car completed.

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Re: Taking it to the next level? [Re: Blues_Cuda] #76763
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Forgot to mention...it's white w/ a blue interior and blue R/T stripe.

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Another picture

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and another picture...

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Again...

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and yet again.

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A trunk shot.

The reproduction trunk mat in my wife's '70 Barracuda looks a lot different than the correct one in the Challenger.

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That's it for now. I wish the camera would have picked up some of these details better than what it did.

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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: Blues_Cuda] #76773
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Thank you for posting. Wow !! Awesome work.

Notice how the engine paint in not layed on all thick and glossy.

Is that an A/C car without full underbody undercoating???

I like the way the front fenderwell undercoating is applied. I've seen that side marker pigtail and retainer fairly clean to fully blasted in undercoating.

A white painted car looks like a great color to do an OE resto on. Great contrasts that make the work really pop.

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Beautiful. I'd love to see more.
Thanks.


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Is that an A/C car without full underbody undercoating???




It was a pleasure visiting with Scott and showing him some of what has went into building this car. After restoring the Cuda and all of the flack that followed it’s OE showing, Steve and I decided to do a restoration that would represent a 100% factory correct vehicle. It is a White R/T 440 Challenger with the salt & pepper blue cloth interior. It has an automatic transmission, air conditioning, six way seat, AO1 package, 5 speaker am/fm radio and a light eggshell blue R/T stripe. It is supposedly a “one of a kind” color combination setup. I can certainly say that our efforts over the past 2 years + has mirrored what someone would have received when taking delivery of a new vehicle from a Dodge dealership 38 years ago! I hope that everyone attending the 2008 Mopar Nationals will come by the OE tent on Saturday to see the results. (I have over 250 documented pictures of the car’s disassembly that will be put together in a book for anyone who would like to see it’s original starting point.) I guarantee that you will see a “factory” vehicle that looks like it has been teleported from the year 1970 to present day.

Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: ECS] #76776
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Looks great.

I'd be very interested to hear more about the particulars of restoring a 1970 A/C system to this level. How did you handle the restoration of the heater core, evaporator and condenser, for example? Re-furbish or NOS? I have rarely seen any A/C car get this treatment so again, very interested for any details or otherwise interesting bits you picked up along the way..

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Well...I'm disappointed....

I heard a couple of weeks ago that the car won't be at Carlisle this year and that it will debut at the Mopar Nationals.

I much as I want to see this car first hand, I will not go to the Mopar KAOS Nationals.....I can't stand that mess.

I'm about 99% hopefull the car will be in Building "T" at Carlisle in 2009 so I will wait another year

Pictures look great!


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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: anlauto] #76778
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That's awesome !!!!
I'm striving to do something like this on my '68 Hemi Charger R/T.. One thing I see I won't be able to duplicate will be the wheel well undercoating on the fuel lines. I won't have those installed until I get the car home from the shop and the coating will already be done.. Maybe I can spray some on after-the-fact. Love the black overspray on the battery tray....

Thanks for sharing, looks totally awesome !!!!


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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: ErikR] #76779
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How did you handle the restoration of the heater core, evaporator and condenser, for example? Re-furbish or NOS? I have rarely seen any A/C car get this treatment




With the exception of two items (that were custom made and look NOS) nothing on this car is reproduction. EVERY piece is either an original factory issue part or an NOS assembly line replacement. (Even things like the gas pad, foam gaskets and fasteners are original issue.) All of the A/C parts are new old stock. The condenser, dryer, high & low pressure lines, etc…. all correct date coded accessories. I chose an A/C car because it was a challenge that I had not seen anyone else undertake with an OE judged, E Body restoration project. The 2008 Columbus Nationals will be the first and last show that this car will be publicly displayed.

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Is that an A/C car without full underbody undercoating???




It was a pleasure visiting with Scott and showing him some of what has went into building this car. After restoring the Cuda and all of the flack that followed it’s OE showing, Steve and I decided to do a restoration that would represent a 100% factory correct vehicle. It is a White R/T 440 Challenger with the salt & pepper blue cloth interior. It has an automatic transmission, air conditioning, six way seat, AO1 package, 5 speaker am/fm radio and a light eggshell blue R/T stripe. It is supposedly a “one of a kind” color combination setup. I can certainly say that our efforts over the past 2 years + has mirrored what someone would have received when taking delivery of a new vehicle from a Dodge dealership 38 years ago! I hope that everyone attending the 2008 Mopar Nationals will come by the OE tent on Saturday to see the results. (I have over 250 documented pictures of the car’s disassembly that will be put together in a book for anyone who would like to see it’s original starting point.) I guarantee that you will see a “factory” vehicle that looks like it has been teleported from the year 1970 to present day.




I used to "hear" that all A/C cars were supposed to get full undercoating. But I used to hear a lot of stuff back in the day that has been since proven incorrect.

Were A/C cars supposed and intended to get full undercoating?

Awesome to see an A/C car get an OE level resto. Fastastic color combo! Thank you for the in process/progress pics

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Undercoating was a sound deadening option. This car only had undercoat only in the wheel well areas. We even matched the spray patterns of the undercoating exactly like it was originally applied when the vehicle was built. That was the most difficult thing to do when restoring the car was getting the same body, paint, seam seal, undercoat, etc…. to look like what came originally on the car.

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