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Re: Etiquette for drag racers [Re: MR_P_BODY] #7497
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Have a working neutral safety switch!
from time to time someone will start their car in gear while in the staging lanes,this leads to bent sheet metal,I know a guy this happened to,worse yet you squish a guy inbetween cars.


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Re: Etiquette for drag racers [Re: Brian_wo] #7498
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Have a working neutral safety switch!
from time to time someone will start their car in gear while in the staging lanes,this leads to bent sheet metal,I know a guy this happened to,worse yet you squish a guy inbetween cars.




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Re: Etiquette for drag racers [Re: MRMOPAR] #7499
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I feel that the CARS have the right of way over pedestrians. Guys may be coasting back to their spot to help speed cool down, and they don't want to hit the brakes as they would then need to re-fire the car. Also, they may be trying to get into the lanes quickly.



This is one of my pet peeves. Guys come FLYING through the pits or staging lanes with the engine shut off. My son almost got run over by Mark Dickerson at Cecil County one day. There IS a speed limit in the pits. My son said he didn't hear him coming and he must have been going 30 mph. I feel that people who do this should be thrown out BEFORE they kill someone.






i NEVER said speeding or driving with the lights off was OK, yet you make it appear as if I feel that it is OK. My point was that pedestrians need to pay attention to what is going on, and not assume that a driver will stop for them or that they can just walk around not paying attention.

Re: Etiquette for drag racers #7500
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All good advice here, and I think this was mentioned already, but if you bring small children, PLEASE keep them under control at all times. This summer our track announcer recounted an incident the previous week where a racer leaving his pit space backed over a 2yr old, killing her. The racer left his car at the track, walked home and shot himself in the head. I believe the child belonged to a spectator. I'm not against bringing children, but the pits are a dangerous enough place for adults, let alone small children.

Re: Etiquette for drag racers #7501
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Yea I can't believe "Jerks" bring their quads, golf carts, and bikes to the track so that their friends and families will actually come out to the track since they rarely do because of the miles and miles of walking that goes along with a day at the track. Give me a break, slow down in the pits and take a few extra seconds to get back to your pit area. Every car should be able to make a run and get back to the pit area w/o over heating, if not they need a new cooling system or a quad to pull them back to the pit area slowly. The mopar nationals looks like the golf cart nationals and it doesn't bother me a bit, just more people to watch you rumble by.


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Nobody wants to hit somebody or be hit by a car. A race car with a full roll cage and the driver strapped in a 5 point harness, neck brace, etc. simply can't see everywhere all the time. People need to be careful, and drivers are people too.

Walking in the pits requires extra care. I think it is impolite for pedestrians to wander around like they are in California (not looking out). Don't go near a running car (they may back out). Don't go more than 5-10 mph in the pits either.


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Re: Etiquette for drag racers [Re: bumps440] #7503
11/29/03 11:00 AM
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Bobby, this is not the theme of this thread but this topic (Westhampton)is what gets Long Island racers boiling mad! There is a huge population of racers on Long Island that would LOVE to stay home and not fight the traffic on Staten Island & the BQE. It IS a crying shame that we can't have a decent track to run (or at least test) on.

Re: Etiquette for drag racers [Re: B1Ken] #7504
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The pits is NOT the place to check converter stall speed, practice your burnout, or see how your car hooks up.

Don't give everyone in your party a mini bike, quad, or other motorized vehicle and allow them to spaz out with it in the pits, and piss off racers.

Re: walking the track, great idea but I don't think anyone would take too kindly to stopping the program to let me walk it. And it isn't like I can walk it when there is a race going on, so when is a person supposed to do that? Get there before anyone else does, and just do it without asking? That would also be frowned on.

Agree 100% on courtesy staging, and right-of-way to the turnouts.

Easy instructions for courtesy staging: Do your burnout, then light the prestage light ASAP, then wait for the next guy to prestage and/or stage.
In other words, whoever finishes their burnout first should prestage (only) and wait for the other guy to pull in before he stages the car.

I have never seen the autostart turned off, ever. It always says it's on, on the timeslip.

I'm guilty of not being 100% ready at the perfect time, and having to take an extra second to cinch the helmet down. I wear glasses, and in the summertime they can fog up something awful when the car isn't moving, so I tend to wait. I figure I am better off taking an extra second rather than trying to drive blind.


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Re: Etiquette for drag racers [Re: ZIPPY] #7505
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Zippy pretty well covers it all.The bottom line is common sense and courtesy in general.Remember, Murphys law is just waiting to happen.
Speaking of common sense or lack of it,one evening a moron in line for tech not 3 feet behind the car in front of him was going wide open throttle against the trans brake.How can any one be THAT stupid ??

Re: Etiquette for drag racers [Re: ZIPPY] #7506
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Zippy, maybe stay after the race and walk it or show up early. I have never been thrown off a track for walking it and i normally find some debris to pick up. Just a safety concern that most people don't think about at speed. Jon

Re: Etiquette for drag racers [Re: ZIPPY] #7507
11/29/03 06:13 PM
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I have never seen the autostart turned off, ever. It always says it's on, on the timeslip.




They only turn the autostart off when you're testing a Super Gas car and your interested in your reaction times. That's when you get quick bulbed and you waste a run. If you complain, they'll likely give you a 5 second wait on your next run.

Re: Etiquette for drag racers [Re: ProSport] #7508
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since they rarely do because of the miles and miles of walking




Perhaps, In Jay Leno's words's, as one of the "fattest" nations on the earth, a little walking would do us some good.

You might also want to think about the fact that if you or someone in your family "hits" someone, you will probably be involved in a law suite. The tracks insurance does not cover you, the racer, and your own insurance frequently has a clause that allows them to hang you out to dry in such cases - participation in contest of speed. You could own a whole lot less assets in the future if that happens.

Most tracks with a web page, also have a first time racer page.. here is one:

http://www.sirace.com/rules/newracer.htm

Some key things, that have been covered before are:

1. NHRA requires at minimum a state drivers license.
2. Seatbelts - they may need to be SFI date coded and 3" width if your ET is 11.99 or quicker (13.99 or quicker if a convertible).
3. Safe tires (no cord showing)
4. All lug nuts in place. The wheel studs have to protrude thru the wheel and into the nut at least the diameter of the stud - and the nut will have to be open ended to allow the inspector to verify that.
5. No wheel covers
6. Radiator coolant overflow catch canister (the factory one may be OK) min 16OZ
7. No fluid leaks
8. Battery tied down
9. Long pants (no shorts allowed), and no tank tops.
10. If your car runs faster than 13.99 you will need an approved (SNELL 90 or better) helmet.
11. Opreational neutral start switch.
12. One functional rear tail-light for night operations.
13. 13.99 or quicker - drive shaft loop (on street tires your OK to 13.00)
14. If floorshifter - need a reverse lockout on the shifter.
15. Battery in trunk - you need a battery cutoff switch.

Your track may have other requirements too, and the tech inspector has the final say...


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Re: Etiquette for drag racers [Re: MRMOPAR] #7509
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I know sometimes it is un avoidable... I know that, but at local small time drags/weekend deals. Shut the damn car off for the national anthem. Nothing worse than a couple of reds leaning over a Chivy Nova revving it to 8000 during the anthem. Nascar issues fines.
As far as safety...... nothing like a leaky overflow/fuel cell overflow..

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This is really going to hurt some feelings too, but you asked..
"10. If your car runs faster than 13.99 you will need an approved (SNELL 90 or better) helmet."
You have a 12 point roll cage, you bought a simpson 3 layer fire suit, you bought $140 simpson 2 layer gloves, you bought the No fear foil/heat shoes........ Yet your wearing a motocycle helmet... Its Snell 2000, but it is designed to take a different style of a hit and most important to me, is that it is not Nomex interior !!!!! Motorcycle is different.
As for people walking in the pits, if you walk in the pits like a wondering Gomer, then wonder in straight lines and be predictable. Seriously, be predictable.

Re: Etiquette for drag racers [Re: ZIPPY] #7511
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Great thread! I'm learning lots here.
Zippy, re your glasses fogging, any dive shop or ski shop shoud sell anti-fog for glasses. Good stuff. Come to think... optometrist shops may sell it.

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any dive shop or ski shop shoud sell anti-fog for glasses.




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Nothing worse than a couple of reds leaning over a Chivy Nova revving it to 8000 during the anthem.



I call this a Chevy "tune up". At our local track there's ALWAYS some maroon leaning over the engine snapping the throttle open right after they pull it out of the trailer. We have a real noise issue with the residential locals near this track and yet every Sunday these guys still have to wing the engine in the pits for no apparent reason other than to listen to their own noise. I've had guys do this right next to me in the pits, while I was leaning down to check tire pressure. Like to blow my f**kin' ear drums out! PISSES ME OFF!

Re: Etiquette for drag racers [Re: B1Ken] #7514
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Checking the trans brake for operation in the staging lanes...no sh%t...actually saw a guy in the staging lanes do this at WOT..let go of the button and went into the car ahead of him plus about three others...police had to be called to control the near riot that broke out...incredible...

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Re: Etiquette for drag racers [Re: B1Ken] #7515
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Like to blow my f**kin' ear drums out!




Another good point. It may not be apparent when your 20 but exposure to engine noise like open headers will damage your hearing.

I keep a bunch of the soft disposable ear plugs around. I use them in the pits and on the track and throw them away when they get dirty. If you cut them short you can pull your helmet on without taking them out. They transmit enough sound so you can hear whats going on around you.


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WHAATTT?? SPEAK UP!! Actually, yes, I already have permanent partial hearing loss due to (1) a bicycle tire inner tube exploding in my right ear (2) Playing in rock bands, and (3) hanging around loud race cars. It sucks. Wear ear protection!

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